adam lanza used an assault rifle

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  1. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    It shows that its not the guns fault, it was the sick mind of this individual.

    He probably would have used a butcher knife and chopped them up if he didn't have guns, this is how badly he is twisted.

    You just are going to have a hard time stopping people this mentally disturbed.
     
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    No....it's not. "Assault" rifle is pure propaganda....a "scary" label applied by the totalitarians who want to take them away.

    Put a nicely finished full wooden stock on that weapon, and it suddenly becomes a semi-automatic "hunting rifle"
     
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    try watching the video in the op link


    call it what you want, but look at the undeniable results
     
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    OW! I would be hard pressed to part with the licence fee, besides my semiautos do the job just fine. Are you a collector? Typical ATF story: I was with a friend at a bar having few brews and we started talking about guns, he had several full autos from WWII and foward (had the licences to go with them) and someone heard the conversation and called the cops. The cops found out who he was and kicked his door in that night and arrested him and took his weapons, even though he had all the proper licences. He was released that night but do you think he got the weapons back, nope. He ended up sueing for damages and did get the money for them but some were not replaceable. Your tax dollars at work.
     
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    No such thing as personal responsibility anymore, especially if someone else can be blamed. The maker of the "GUN FREE ZONE" sign should be held responsible too as that sign did nothing to stop him.

    You know this how?
     
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    Not to mention many of them now are only 22's for plinking fun.
     
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    And the lesson here is never advertise what you actually have and don't have.
     
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    This is a mental health issue. These young male wacko's in their late teens or early 20's who go psycho have all sorts of ways and weapons they could use. They could make bombs. They could use arson. There is little or no way to stop them completely, so there will always be tragedies like this.

    The assault style weapons like the semi auto gas operated high capacity magazine fed rifles and mac-10s and so forth simply allow them to wreck a devastating havoc.

    There will probably now be a political discussion about whether to draw the line of illegality to further include these assault style weapons, and combine them with sawed off shotguns, machine guns, submachine guns, and automatic rifles. But whether that will make much difference is unlikely.

    The mental health issue will still prevail no matter what.
     
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    I own many different types of guns for different purposes. I don't kill they coyotes on my land with the shotgun I use to kill the rattlesnakes. I don't carry around a hunting rifle when I'm out in the wilderness for protection as it fires to slow. My .50cal has a different purpose then my revolver does.

    Not sure why this lady had multiple types but simply owning more than one is not strange.
     
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    Logic. If she kept her guns all in a gunsafe and kept it locked and did not share the combination with her wacko son, he would not have gotten his hands on them.

    She lost control of the weapons, and her son overcame her and took control of them. The worst nightmare in a family with a wacko kid and guns in it.
     
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    22 caliber rounds were used in M-16 in Vietnam. They are plenty powerful enough to kill a six year old cornered in a classroom... tons of "plinking fun" for the whole family.
     
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    It is a myth that the semi auto gas operated magazine fed high capacity rifles are for "hunting". They simply are not. For predator control a bolt action scoped 223 is much more appropriate. Just concede the nonsense and lets move on.

    Moving on, the only reason to own assault style weapons is for offense or defense against similarly armed opponents, such as in militia service.

    Ergo the only justification for owning the assault style weapons is for the militia clause in the 2nd Amendment.

    That will now probably get a lot of discussion in DC.

    And whether the US Supreme Court then rules on it, we will also see.

    Those are currently unanswered questions.
     
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    Your source:

     
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    maybe the kid found the key or something

    and they're saying the rifle caused most of the deaths


    what a joke, you don't know what you're talking about


    yea, i do have a source and it's linked in the op
     
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    I don't disagree with the need to keep firearms out of the reach of those "mentally unstable", I am just not sure how everyone has concluded she didn't take steps to see that they were secure. There is no basis or evidence she didn't have a gun locker, and the fact he tried to purchase his own gun shows she might have had them secure if anything.
     
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    Except he didn't try to purchase his own gun.. That was an error.
     
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    Yeah this is true. We are talking about a 20 year old man who lived in the house. He had plenty of time to figure out how to get into a gun safe. Maybe he threatened his mother with a knife. We don't know.
     
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    Yeah, um, thanks but I you didn't answer the question that was actually asked. The source you posted was a story from 7:30PM last night, which is after the ME spoke, and reinforces the point I was making. We didn't learn of this rifle being found on the scene until AFTER the ME spoke.
     
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    i doubt that story is accurate, can you show some evidence?

    suit docket number, article or something
     
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    I don't like assault type of weapons only because they feel clunky and don't fit me right. Believe me, they have plenty of uses outside of killing people. We had a massive feral cat problem in the small town near my ranch and the local cop told us to deal with it. The nearest animal control is a few hundred miles away so over the course of a couple of weeks those assault weapons came in handy. The high rate of fire and low caliber allowed us to clear out over 60 cats who were literally starting to starve to death.

    I wouldn't have liked to try and get them with a bolt-action weapon.
     
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    what do you mean by me?


    that's not a humane way of dealing with that, you're supposed to trap them

    i can show you cases where people have been convicted of animal cruelty for shooting cats and dogs
     
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    Have a source?

    I didn't see NBC or others retract their report of him trying to buy one from Dick's Sporting Goods on Dec 11.
     
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    ME: Chief Medical Examiner.
     
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    It was on all the news shows this morning.
     
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