Amazing how some people blame this whole recession on Obama

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  1. merc

    merc Active Member

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    If Bluebird is code for Obama's Word.. . then yes, I sure did.
     
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    Bush 2 - took us to war in Iraq
    Obama - continued the war in Iraq, and then took us to 2 more wars in Afghan and Lybia.

    Bush 2 - started Gitmo
    Obama - continued Gitmo, then released the bad guys and let em go home.

    Bush 2 - Tax Cuts for the Rich
    Obama- More Tax Cuts for the Rich and attacking the middle class as we speak.

    Bush 2 - TARP (bad idea)
    Obama - Stimulus #1 (very bad idea)

    Bush 2 - 4 foot 7
    Obama - 6 foot 2

    Bush 2 - CFR puppet
    Obama - CFR puppet

    Bush 2 - wicked cabinet members
    Obama - same wicked cabinet members

    Bush 2 - Banned Gay marriage
    Obama- Lifted ban on Gay marriage

    Bush 2 - supports NAFTA
    Obama - also supports NAFTA


    Notice a trend here people?
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you took both Bluebird and marine1 to school actually.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Gives standing ovation.I would hope that since you spelled it out for them dummies style,it would register with them but thats hoping for too much.:-D
     
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    What's amazing is how President Obama blames it all on President Bush. I think there is blame for President Bush, blame for President Obama, blame for Rep. Frank and Sen. Dodd, blame for President Clinton, blame for President Carter, blame for Sen. Kennedy.

    Blame for the continuing problems? They ain't President Bush's fault, folks. But, never mind, President Obama is busy trashing our allies and supporting the protestors. What a fool.
     
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    Because your moniker is 9/11, its a thin illusion I know, but expecting more from leftists always leave a sick, empty feeling, and wondering why you even tried.
     
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    Let's hope it works :mrgreen:
     
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    This I agreed with 100%,..there's enough blame to go around.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    amen to that.what gets me is what i said before which is how people conviently forget that Bush initially got us into the worst mess ever in the first place yet some of the die hard republicans have the worst memory ever and think Obama started it all.:rolleyes:
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    excuse me Bush dupe afraid of the truth,but is your name Flag? I did not think so.
     
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    Bush Apologist? You have me mixed up with dsomeone else. Bush did well until March 2003, any thing after that was as leftist loser as Barrack bin Husseini O'Bama has done.

    Humor is elusive, especially for the left.

    With that said, you made my point about leftists. As I knew you would.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    That must have been a typing error in that post.Carter?:-D otherwise yeah he hit the nail right on the head.as i said before,those CFR puppets Clinton,Bush and Obama are willing to do what the establishment wants so they are all to blame along with the others he mentioned except Carter of course.:mrgreen:
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    yeah dictater Bush did well alright before 2003.He got what he wanted on sept 11th.:-D again your name is not flag so i dont know why I am even bothering with you.
     
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    Thank you for acknowledgeing that I am not a stupid clueless leftist. A momentary kindness I'm sure, but noted none the less.

    But, the OP is a but a shawdow of the truth, as all things leftist are. You failed to trace this financial disaster to its genesis, as all leftists do. You simply noted some barely relavent observations made by others and attempt to pass them off as your own. You are fondeling a mere sliver from the ice berg of this disaster thinking you have saved the Titanic.
     
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    That's one theory.That Obama is a mere shill for Offshore bankers
    and Bildenbergers.Yes,Obama did sneak into a New World Order
    meeting,as well Hillary.A few years ago.
     
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    At the risk of promulgateing a conspiracy theory, got a source on this tid bit?
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trouble with many, is we're to eager to believe all these lies and half truths both sides try and feed us. It's always to make the other side look bad. But they are both a bunch a liars, leading us eagerly around by the nose.
     
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    exactly.....they cater to the elites.....the rest of us don't count!
     
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    He is not the only one to blame for making it worse.....The republican party did a hell of a job helping out.
     
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    Yes you cant have a rational discussion on obama.

    He didn not start 2 wars, afghanistan was started by bush. Lybia was barely a war, a billion $ costs (wich might be repayed) and not 1 US casulty.

    You both say he continued gitmo and then he stopped with it and you blame him for both

    Tarp was very bad as it didnt resolve the problem in the first place and instead made it worse. Stimulus was a lot better but simply not enough.

    Same for taxes: with the stimulus obama lowered them.

    ...
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    President Obama isn't responsible for the recession as it was created predominately by government interventionism in the economy that really goes back decades.

    What President Obama is responsible for is spending trillions of dollars that do nothing related to the recession but will cause negative impacts on the future economy that will continue for decades into the future. Current government spending will cause a reduction in the increase of the GDP for decades to come and that will ultimately cost more job losses than what we're experiencing today. Government economic interventionism based upon corrupted Keynesian economic philosophies is the ultimate problem which caused the recent recession and has caused the loss of jobs in America.
     
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    You seem to forget that the seeds of this recession were planted before Bush even got into office. Even though he helped in no way, the blame cannot be laid squarely at his or obama's feet. You might as well throw Billy Clinton, and congress under the bus as well.
     
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    Actually it was more related to his father, former President George HW Bush, and related to the Gulf War where the US didn't follow the second half of the UNSC Resolution that authorized military force to remove Iraq from Kuwait. The second half required restoring peace but instead the US became involved in the sovereign affairs of Iraq which lead to virtually a constant state of war between the US and Iraq throughout the 1990's. But it started even before then going back to Ike and Truman with US interventionism in the Middle East.

    We can trace the actual roots of the 2008 recession all the way back to the creation of the Federal Reserve which really marked the point where government interventionism in the US economy went from minor to major and the consequences of that interventionism. This mushroomed in the 1930's under FDR and has gotten worse since then.
     
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    Yes, there are a lot of contributing factors to how this economy came to be what it is today. Many of you are right, some it goes back decades ago. But I think the biggest blow to our economy was having Free Trade with countries that paid poverty wages, none to little benefits and little to no enviromental laws. Not requiring any from them. We just threw the door open for thousands of American companies to leave and make billions in profit. That also wiped out millions of our Middle Class jobs and widened the gap between the rich and the poor.

    People are wanting to close the gap between the rich and the poor by redistributing wealth. But the best way of doing that is through jobs. We always had the very wealthy with us. But we didn't care because we had factories here that made the Middle Class. Now we have lost a third of our factories with more leaving all the time. We are doing very little to protect the ones that we have left, or to bring new ones in.

    Very few of us even consider where a product is made when you go shopping. We buy what ever is cheaper or looks nice.

    Our idea is to tax companies more, making it even harder for them to stay here.

    Another idea is to change the process of how to vote, so that we have a much better chance of forcing unions on companies, bring up wages and benefits. Or forcing them out of Right to Work states by suing them.

    We have decided that more regulation on them is a good idea, at a time when many companies staying here, are struggling to survive foreign competition.

    What we are doing is all wrong.
     
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    Yes, there are a lot of contributing factors to how this economy came to be what it is today. Many of you are right, some it goes back decades ago. But I think the biggest blow to our economy was having Free Trade with countries that paid poverty wages, none to little benefits and little to no enviromental laws. Not requiring any from them. We just threw the door open for thousands of American companies to leave and make billions in profit. That also wiped out millions of our Middle Class jobs and widened the gap between the rich and the poor.

    People are wanting to close the gap between the rich and the poor by redistributing wealth. But the best way of doing that is through jobs. We always had the very wealthy with us. But we didn't care because we had factories here that made the Middle Class. Now we have lost a third of our factories with more leaving all the time. We are doing very little to protect the ones that we have left, or to bring new ones in.

    Very few of us even consider where a product is made when you go shopping. We buy what ever is cheaper or looks nice.

    Our idea is to tax companies more, making it even harder for them to stay here.

    Another idea is to change the process of how to vote, so that we have a much better chance of forcing unions on companies, bring up wages and benefits. Or forcing them out of Right to Work states by suing them.

    We have decided that more regulation on them is a good idea, at a time when many companies staying here, are struggling to survive foreign competition.

    What we are doing is all wrong. But we just go along with what our leaders tell us and figure they know what's right. Well if they knew what was right, they wouldn't have put us in the position we're in now.
     

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