America wants a Modern America, not a Duck Dynasty America

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  1. jay runner

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    It's an outdoorsmen's sporting paradise. Of course they're happy, happy, happy. But I get your link.
     
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    I've already told you: you referred to government supporting markets as great. Protectionism is coercive and market supporting. Theres no debate in that as comparative advantage is a dynamic, rather than static, concept (as illustrated by infant industry analysis).

    You're either consistent and support protectionism (and critique US policy) or you don't really mean that government support for markets is great (and really mean 'government support for markets is great, but only when I say so')
     
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    Consistent is okay as long as it fits into America First, more jobs and higher pay for US citizens, less welfare, and eliminating illegal aliens from crossing borders.
     
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    It was part of a binary solution set implied by your love of governments creating markets post.

    Either:

    1) You understand that by creating markets governments use protectionism (coercion) and approve

    OR

    2) You don't understand that by creating markets governments use protectionism (coercion) and are displaying your ignorance of the subject.

    Which is it?
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Let's take something like negative externalities. We know that the empirical evidence supports the 'more guns=more crime' hypothesis. Government supporting markets would therefore entail the use of a tax on firearms. Support that?
     
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    When did I say Govt created markets? I said I support Govt being supportive of markets. If you thiink there is only one way that a Govt can be supportive of a market then I can't help you. The reality there is a million different ways...tax plan, regulations, laws, etc that Govt can pass or not pass that can be supportive of markets, or destrutive of markets
     
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    We don't care about theories. We want concrete results.

    I would support taxation on firearms and more stringent background checks to keep guns more in the hands of the civilized nobility, and less in the hands of the riffraff and crazies.
     
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    A vacuous reply. Evidence shows that gun owners do not face the true cost from their preferences. Supporting markets therefore, given the laws of supply and demand, refers to taxes on firearms.

    Now I don't expect many right wingers to support such a tax. The point is simple: "supporting markets" is really a cliche. The right winger isn't really interested in what that really means. They are ideological driven, with all respect for economic reality thrown out of the window.
     
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    The poster was right. It was whites who with their innovation, creativity and critical thinking skills provided us with all the modern conveniences that we enjoy today. The truth hurts but it isn't racist or hateful, and I'm not "deeply ashamed" about whiteys success in making our countries the destination place for hundreds of millions, if not billions of people. I am ashamed for whites who demonize other whites for being proud of, and grateful for, their heritage.

    Let the name calling begin!
     
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    And the other poster, who referred how racism is allowed to go unchecked on here, is also right. Goodbye.
     
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    Laws, regulations and taxes are backed by....
     
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    Not wanting your country over-run by socialist indoctrinated, third world immigrants is not racist.
    Anti-conservative, anti-Christian, and anti-white bigotry runs rampant in this forum. It is the 'liberals' who are more often found to resort to ad nauseum attacks when they can't convincingly argue their point.
     
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    Stormfront: Standing ovation :applause:
     
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    I don't hang out on the Stormfront website. My opinions are my own and based on logic, facts, observation, and self-education.
     
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    Oh look. Another all whites are uneducated racists thread. Everyone take a shot
     
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    Weird - that's exactly what those who hang out on Stormfront say...
     
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    Modern America
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    Does a modern America include millions of homeless people, drug cartel incursion, no middle class, squatter camps with millions and millions of tin--roofed dumps, broken down infrastructure, the creep of sharia law, pockets of ethnicities where no one interacts with those not of their kind, a real estate market in which no can afford to buy real estate anymore thanks to immigration, total government shutdown of freedom of speech--to name a few?
     
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    That's exactly what childish, indoctrinated college grads, and Antifa members say too when asked where they got their opinions from, 'I did not get my socialist/Marxist views from CNN or my professors of indoctrination'.
     
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    I like how this dystopian picture of a Democratic America is being painted, just like it was in 2016. This colorful post reminds me of why Trump has gotten away with so much idiocy in America. For starters, Trump's war on trade hasn't helped the middle class and we can use GM as an example for that. Import tariffs led to, in part to why the Lordstown plant is now idling. Then you could use Sears as another example how Trump hasn't helped the middle class. Ask any affected Sears worker in the last couple years is they think Trump has helped the middle class, especially after we've found the tax returns are coming in short this year, ballooning the national debt, if Trump has actually helped the middle class.

    What would be wrong with a government in the US that takes care of gun reform as quickly as New Zealand has? And NZ isn't a communist or socialist country. Citizens didn't have to worry about not having healthcare? People who could excel in careers without drowning in student debt? Supplying jobs in green energy measures? What would be wrong with a America like that? I remind people at one point in time, 11th and 12th grade didn't even exist. Is it too radical that high schoolers get two extra years of high school, free of charge?
     
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    "Trump's war on trade hasn't helped the middle class and we can use GM as an example for that. Import tariffs led to, in part to why the Lordstown plant is now idling."


    The reason for the plant closure is that not enough people were buying the Chevy Cruze and aggregate demand didn't justify the conversion to produce a different model.


    "Then you could use Sears as another example how Trump hasn't helped the middle class."

    For the last two decades, it has been Sears' strategy to slowly go out of business. Their hope was to keep the stores subisting for as long as possible, while the value of their properties appreciated.
     
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    Your labor, your property; don't like corporations, live in Waldon's Pond. Your idea, your property; don't like corporations, start a small business. Your life, your property--see how important property rights are? Marx and Lenin are just the "fickle finger of fate's" cruel joke played on humanity.
     
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    Workers aren't underpaid. They are paid what they agree to be paid.
     
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    Are these Venezuelan's expressing their feelings toward Socialism?
     
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    Has it dawned on any trumpians that he is actually trying to impose socialism on America? He seems to think he can order corporations to do what he thinks is politically expedient for himself and if they dont then he attacks them and their workers as unamerican. Control the sources of production anyone?
     

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