AWESOME- Unborn child has inalienable RIGHT TO LIFE- AL Supreme Court

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  1. Gorn Captain

    Gorn Captain Banned

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    How EXACTLY would Alabama PROVE in a court of law that...


    a woman who claimed she had a natural abortion, aka miscarriage.....actually self-induced her abortion and "committed murder"???
     
  2. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I think abortion is an issue of individual morality and economics, and without those two components, the problem of abortion cannot be solved in a just and lasting way. A state solution will just drive the practice underground instead of stopping it.
     
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    If you deprive a woman ownership of her body then you don't consider her human. She's government property.
     
  4. Gorn Captain

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    You really believe that?

    Would you exectue a woman for "murder" who took RU-486 and terminated her 3 week pregnancy?
     
  5. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    How can you? If I need a heart or I will die can I force you (my only possible match) to give your's up?
     
  6. Gorn Captain

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    Bob, you want to stump a "pro-lifer"?.....ask them, and don't let them off the hook or let them filibuster....

    HOW...EXACTLY....they'd ENFORCE an "Abortion Prohibition"...a national ban on abortion?
     
  7. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The flaw in this line of thought Questerr is that you associate "ownership and control of a womans body" to include another persons body as hers to do with what she will.

    Clearly this is not the case.

    As am I. This however is NOT slavery.
     
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    Lets hope this type of attitude does not take over the entire country. It's kind of embarrassing. I do feel sorry for the women of that state and the other state's hostile to women's rights.
     
  9. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats your stumper??

    LOL......the same way we enforce any law. Try our best with the knowledge that you arent going to get 100% of them. If it was illegal, most of the work would be done as your Planned Parenthoods would be out of business, and this alone would save thousands of babies each year.

    Would it save them all? Probably not, but it would certainly save some.

    And thats worth it. Maybe you'd save the next Beethoven or Michaelangelo.
     
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    The same way you enforce the law banning lib women from performing do-it-yourself 4th trimester abortions.

    If the authorities find out that the woman has murdered her child she goes to jail.
     
  11. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup...same way we enforce ANY illegal activity.
     
  12. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    The Left loves to promote the lie that outlawing abortion wouldn't change the frequency with which it occurs, it will just drive it into the black market. Though there's no doubt that some mothers will want so badly to kill their baby that they'll break the law to do it, most will obey the law. Abortion very often is a decision made because its available legally. When it isn't available, then it isn't part of the decision tree for most people, just like murder isn't. When abortion is illegal, other options will be considered, all of them resulting in the baby living. There's never been a time in this country were "back ally abortions" was a thriving industry. Typically this was a service catered to prostitutes when other birth control measures failed.

    The bottom line is, banning abortion will SAVE LIVES. Anyone who thinks abortion is wrong should get behind this.
     
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    WTF are you babbling about? Of course not! Kill a person to save your life? How does this even relate to the ruling?
     
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    "some"?....how many is "some"? And isn't "some" the OPPOSITE of "most"?

    And again, how do you even get those "some"?

    "Womb Gestapo" (you'll need a bunch of new cops to enforce it, remember?) busts in on a doctor's office......doctor and the woman claim she had a miscarriage and he's performing a NECESSARY therapeutic D&C for uterine bleeding.....how do you PROVE they're lying in a court of law?

    Woman goes to an ER....claims she had a miscarriage. Her boyfriend's jealous ex- tells the Womb Gestapo "She killed her baby!!!!!".....how do you PROVE, one way or the other, in a court of law?

    Woman flies to Montreal for the "weekend"....returns NOT pregnant.....YOU think she had an abortion.....how do you PROVE she did in a court of law?


    BTW, don't be upset if you have no answers to these.....they've been on the Abortion Forum for months, even years....and NONE of the "pro-lifers" have been able to answer them except as you did

    "Who cares if 'most' can't be proven?...it MIGHT save 'some'!!!!!"

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    How EXACTLY do the "authorities" find out if a woman had an abortion in the 1st trimester....if she self-induces at home in her bathroom with a natural abortifacient .

    (I'll give you some time to Google "natural abortifacient " :) )

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    You mean how "most" people stopped drinking during Prohibition in the 20s?
     
  15. RichT2705

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    So much for your vaunted "stumper" lol. Resorted to a wall of gibberish I see in hopes of obscuring your embarrasment that what you called a "stumper" was actually a very easy answer.
     
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    Unfortunately, America is definitely on the bottom end of women's rights in the First World. It doesn't seem likely to change anytime soon.
     
  17. Gorn Captain

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    You answered NONE of my hypothetical scenarios.....yet you claim "victory"?!?!?

    ROFLMAO :D
     
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    They may not know every time a woman kills her child.

    Some women might get away with it just like any other common murderer on the streets is not always caught.

    We catch some, some we don't.
     
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    Tell you what, if you want to force your own wife and daughters to become property of the state then by all mean do it. But you can't force others what to do you think they should do with their bodies.

    I thought you people were against government interference. Looks like you're not.
     
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    It's about protecting life against irresponsible murderers.
     
  21. RichT2705

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    Yes, because while you are trying to manufacture, and live on hypotheticals I will bring you facts.

    if abortion was illegal and planned parenthood was closed down (as I already said) heres what you would have saved in 2011.

    336,964 people. Those wouldnt be a grey area in court as you want to make it sound. those are demonstrable people saved. Thats just PP.

    Now as I said...I dont think you could guarantee 100% success. but youc ant with any law about anything...but 334,000 kids would have seen 2012.

    Its a good start.

    Find another "stumper" because if that crap stumps anyone, then you're asking dumb people. ROFLMAO at those 330K....and 2012, 2013,2014...etc etc.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pla...rt-we-did-333964-abortions-1-every-94-seconds


    Any more "stumpers" you want to pass along Gorn?
     
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    if you consider murder laws as government interference I can only pray that you are not my neighbor
     
  23. Mac-7

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    But the lib god has spoken.

    Judges have the final say on this question and right now libs are sucking air.
     
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    Whether or not something is enforceable has nothing to do with whether or not it should be legal.

    Laws have value in there intent, if nothing else.
     
  25. RichT2705

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    Tell you what, stop pretending that another persons body is "your body" to do with as you will, and the problem goes away.

    One of the Governments only real jobs is to protect it's citizens. Especially those who cannot protect themselves. I will always side with that protection.
     
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