Civil servants like Marie Yovanovitch are the enemy of Trumpery

attacking groups with those 3 letters is no longer allowed on this board, members of both sides have been reported for that, not sure why the word has not been *'d out yet

 

yes, and Trump violated the rules, Trump is not above the law - all Trump had to do is follow the rules and not try to use foreign powers to attack his political rivals

btw, the American people voted for Hillary, she got millions more votes than Trump, the government bureaucracy gave the win to Trump anyways - we may not always agree with the rules, but they are the rules

 

This is quite funny

 

what is funny about it? both sides think the other has this condition, its like the tea bag word in the past which was also banned here as they do not lend to civil communication between the parties members

I have been reported for using the word as have members of the other side, like the President, we have to follow the rules

 

It's funny the folks suffering from the condition are so sensitive on being called out on it..

 

Let's get back on topic.

She was an obstacle in Slimy Rudy and Crooked Donald's efforts to hatch a plan to extort Zelensky. From all accounts she is a honest, dedicated, experienced woman who spent her professional career in the service of her country...........just like most civil servants. That makes her the antithesis of Trumpery. So they smeared her reputation and had her removed from her post as the US ambassador to Ukraine. A pretense was created to justify firing her because she would not be part of the hackery. If you think she is the only qualified person in the government who was forced out, or left on their own accord, due to the treachery taking place, you are wrong. Trump is purposely gutting the government to make way for Trumpery.

In order for Trumpery to thrive, an approach to government service that is fundamentally narcissistic, unscrupulous, and self-serving........people with integrity like Marie Yovanovitch must be marginalized. Because Trumpery can not be implemented by civil servants like Marie Yovanovitch. It can only be implemented by people like Billy the Bagman, Mike "Pompus" Pompeo, and Slimy Rudy. So she was marginalized.......almost. Fortunately, she has been afforded the opportunity to tell her story and reveal what happened behind the scenes.........despite Don's attempted to block her from doing so. What she exposed is an admin intent on undermining trust in America's institutions so his personal interests can be served.

Her story about what happened fits seamlessly with what we have been hearing from others in a position to know. Namely, there was a concerted effort on the part of multiple players to get something from Ukraine the Orange Fraud wanted. Compromising material on a political rival from a foreign government that would be politically damaging to that rival. If this sounds familiar there's a reason for that, it happened in the last election cycle.

I encourage everyone to read the statement she released to the public before her testimony. She is exactly the kind of principled person we need working for the nation's interests. It's her outstanding qualities that make her a threat to Individual 1.........making him a threat to us all.

 

members from both sides seem to be sensitive on this issue, neither side like to be told they have this condition

ironically it did not become a concern until the left also started using the word to describe Trump supporters.... but it is what it is and I do not care as long as the rule does not only apply to democrats and as I have seen members of both the left and the right effected, it seems it applies to everyone

 

You happen to be the first I've heard say these things....ironic

 

well I was not the only one reported for using the word, just letting you know, take it or leave it

 

Maybe her and Hunter can share a cell.

https://news.rambler.ru/usa/42978459-onischenko-ocherednoy-ukrainskiy-skandal-burizma-2-na-podhode/

 

Maybe one of these days you'll take of the blinders and see the word for what it is rather than what you'd like it to be. Sadly your post reminds me of the democratic play book since Eisenhower. Lying about republicans and calling them every name in the book is just fine but telling the truth about Democrats is just mean and nasty or the stuff of conspiracy theories. Again sir, or madam, as the case may be, if democrats want civility they should first try offering up some. Every damn anti Trump thread on this forum begins with personal insults and the majority get worse as they continue.

 

Well that is because some folks are seriously fragile. Has Trumpetts been banned yet?

 

By reading here idiototic report.

 

oh geeze, this is the second time Trump has tried to do this, first against Hillary, now Biden - Trump got away with it once...

 

yes, there are some on both sides that do not like people saying their group has that word, same as with the tea bag word.... so best just not to use it

I don't care either way as long as the rules apply equally to both sides

 

Link please.

 

Hilary had a reputation for corruption long before Trump came along. Surely you don't believe old joe's self serving poppycock about not knowing Country wide gave him a sweet heart deal on his mansion do you? This isn't Joe's first time on the merry go round either.

 

No he didn't.

 

sure.....

"Read and search the full Mueller report"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html

 

and yet it was Trump that turns out to be the corupt one.... yes Hillary was stupid to use personal email... as is the Trump white house stupid to use personal email and the what's up app

 

And yet Trump Corruption can only be seen by democrats...

 

nah, republicans see it too, they just don't want to admit it publicly

 

Yeah...well to be fair, they are being told about the corruption...via parody

 

THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE

We are not referring here to the rules of baseball or some sport, despite the fact that many Americans think that politics IS a sport.

We are exchanging about a fundamental-characteristic of a truly FREE and HONEST democracy! Our right to vote fairly and squarely for those who represent us to any legislature and/or the presidency. They become the "Voice of the People".

The popular-vote is employed purely in every other major democracy on earth for elections. Here are the countries that employ today an Electoral College:
"Burundi, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Madagascar, Myanmar, Pakistan, Trinidad and Tobago and Vanuatu."

The US is the progenitor of a democracy (since Athens). Why would it want to warp the popular-vote. The reason is lost in the diaphanous clouds of history.

This is why:
*At the moment when Washington needed most a "country" in order to build an Army, the states were still bickering about their presence.
*The southern-states did not have the population of the northern states because most European immigrants were coming from Europe. (Which had most already renounced slavery!)
*So the Founding Fathers negotiated formulating the "Constitution" established the Electoral College as a compromise between the President by a vote of Congress and election by a simple popular-vote of qualified citizens.
*The Electoral College was "constitutionalized"(in 1812) by the 12th Amendment. And nobody since ever gave it another thought, like asking Congress to put down the 12th Amendment

So, we've been stuck with this monstrous mistake that has already ELECTED WRONGLY FIVE PRESIDENTS! Furthermore, the Electoral College with its winner-take-all-voting makes a mockery of the very concept of participatory democratic elections where all votes should be counted.

At present, in any election of the PotUS, if your vote was not for the winner, it was destroyed (not counted) when establishing the "winner" of the popular-vote by your state's Electoral College ...

PS: And I'll bet they never said anything like the above last paragraph in your Civics Class!

 

The fact that Hillary and her husband accrued 250 million dollars by selling influence to foreign countries qualifies as corrupt. If you have another explanation of how she amassed all that personal wealth, I would like to hear it. The Clintons were the first presidential couple to amass their wealth AFTER leaving office..... this marks the fact that they are bought and paid for shills of international billionaires. If you are a liberal, you should be embarrassed to defend them.