Debunking 6 Myths About Anders Breivik

The NY Times? LMFAO! your refute with the NY Times? ROFLMAFAO!

 

Liberals are simple shills for people of violent Islamic faith.

 

17516 Deadly Islamic terror attacks since 9-11-2001.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


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No doubt about it. They are in total denial about the failure of multiculturalism.

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Geez!!!

There is nothing to analyze...the guy is nuts.

His reasons are nuts.

His beliefs are nuts.

He is nuts.

End.


Just lock him up for ever and ignore him.

 

Bingo. Also, those who sow hate to reap violence are also heavily defensive of their behavior, having no interest in changing the problem.

 

This should be the new definition of a Liberal.

 

LOL – I think this post will win my personal 'insane-rant-of-the-day'- award! Have you wiped that foam of your mouth yet?

Apparently you've never been to any of those countries with supposed mass-muslim immigration and you derive all knowledge of them from said hate-blogs.
Pretty much anybody who lives in a halfway decently sized European town or city has Muslim neighbours. My quarter of town is so multicultural that it would probably be your worst nightmare. And I love it! But don't worry: next time a Muslim drops into my business for a little chat I shall inform them that befriending me makes them an unbeliever. I have a feeling they're not aware of that and I would not want them to unknowingly risk their salvation.

As a matter of fact I share your contempt for the patriot act though. Too bad Bush's fearmongering has led Americans to accept this nonsense.
So far my countries police and intelligence service has done a fine job without restricting an abundance of civil liberties in the name of fighting terrorism. I trust that even after the Norway attacks they'll continue to do a good job without costing too much money and that we won't have to resort to stripping right-wing Islamophobes of their citizenship and deporting them from my country.

 

I say that while I do indeed condemn the government of Israel's policies against Palestinians I've never supported terrorism of any kind. I prefer peaceful resistance.

And I say that Norway is not under occupation nor is its culture under threat.
Thus while Palestinian terrorists did indeed have a real reason for their none the less inexcusable crimes, Breivik's reason for his inexcusable crimes was non-existant other than in his deluded mind that was apparently utterly consumed by the xenophobic right-wing hate-blogs he used to frequent.

 

What there is actually very little doubt about is that Breivik read books like the one you've depicted. And then he decided it would be a good idea to plant bombs and shoot some leftish teenagers.

May I trust you don't approve of his actions? Because somehow you loading up the picture of this book in the given context so shortly after the Norway attacks gives me a slight suspicion that soon he'll have his secret little fan-club among your ranks.

 

Soon????!!

The fan club you speak of already exists and is not-so-secret.

Note the number of Right Wing posts talking how "liberals drove them to commit the crime", etc.

 

Teh (*)(*)(*)(*) has hit teh fan...

 

You get my vote for best analysis.

I am giving the liberal and conservative corners zero points. Both appear to be spinning the events as it suits them.

The only scores they have obtained, especially Junobet, is a 10 in personal insults with her claims that other posters are soul mates or fans of a mass murderer.


Sick stuff.

 

what is Norwegian culture?

This guy thinks he is back in Viking times!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking

 

What say you?

Do you think Breivik was right in what he did?

Murdering innocent children?

Is that what you think people should be doing?

I say, I see views similar to those expressed by Breivik, posted in this forum every day. And that is dangerous to society.

 

I don't think they are soul mates. That requires a soul and clearly there is an absence of soul.

However, there are views expressed here which are similar to Breivik's (viewed as repulsive by decent people) and one can wonder what is the purpose of making such posts.

One has to wonder what some of these posters quietly wish to do to "defend" what they view as their culture.

I have had right wingers on other fora express the wish to level the entire Middle East. People here have referred to other cultures as "the roaches". If these hate-filled people have no wish to act, what is the purpose of repeatedly posting race/religion hate propaganda? If they do not wish to act themselves, is it to form hatred in the minds of other readers...for what end?

It takes only one gun happy nutcase to latch onto that kind of mentality and decide not to just spout about it, but to do what Breivik did.

It seems that is what Breivik is trying to trigger by his action and propaganda, he is hoping to mobilise the rest of the gun happy nutters who share his paranoia to adopt his "take action" approach.

I sincerely hope the Nordic authorities continue to silence Breivik in his court appearances.

And it is horrifying to express this, but one must wonder how many right wing haters truly think what Breivik did was wrong and how many privately think otherwise. There is a huge amount of hate expressed toward "liberals". Those innocent children who were murdered, were the future of the Labour (liberal to US) Party in Norway and that is why Breivik killed them.

 

Prepare, like I was, to be called a liar by OBY. Apparently you don't have any Muslim friends because-according to him-Islam forbids any friendships with the 'infidel'.
I think he's confusing Islam with Scientology...

On edit: Having read further on I discover exactly the above in a later post by OBY. Predictable as a morning dump; stinks just as bad too...

 

Unfortunately, that isn’t true.

Try again. The vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants in country after country flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form segregated enclaves that eventually in time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as parallel societies within societies and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside. Indeed, this is a very well established pattern that like clockwork happens in country after country without fail and wherever mass Muslim immigration is currently occurring.

In fact, there has never been one single long-term successful outcome from mass Muslim immigration, as in every case the countries involved inevitably ended up with the Muslim immigrants eventually imposing Sharia on the non-Muslim indigenous populations and at the same time rendering those indigenous populations into harsh and degrading dhimmitude.

By the way, Sharia is a very draconian form of all encompassing Islamic totalitarianism that imposes itself on every single aspect of life, even controlling the way that all Muslims must use the bathroom. It also has a very well established set of laws and ethics known as the Institution of Dhimmitude for governing non-Muslim dhimmis, as non-Muslim dhimmis in Islamic society are always violently oppressed and systematically persecuted as second-class citizens to coerce their conversions to Islam over time, that is if they are not slaughtered outright first.

Indeed, look what is happening in Cote D’Ivoire today, where via a combination of legal and illegal mass Muslim immigration the Muslims just the other day imposed Sharia on the formerly indigenous population. Hence, the non-Muslim population in Cote D’Ivoire today is violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether. Exactly like Christians and all non-Muslim dhimmis living inside every Muslim majority country in the world today are also violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether without exception.

In addition, demographic conquest is also currently in the process of happening in several other North Africa countries with high Muslim populations as well, and in only a matter of time those non-Muslim countries will also inevitably become Muslim states once Sharia is imposed on them too and their indigenous populations will also become rendered into harsh and degrading dhimmitude. Indeed, to see the future of Europe all you have to do is study what is happening today inside those North African countries.

Thus, not only are you incredibly intellectually dishonest and extremely delusional at the same time, but also apparently you are exceedingly narrow-minded as well, and that is not the full extent of your problems, as very apparently you also actually believe your own lies too.

And I’m Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and Peter Pan all rolled up into one. Thanks again for showcasing your intellectual dishonesty and your delusions like a fool. It really goes a long way in helping to establish your credibility.

Actually, the issue GWB avoided like the plague is the fact that without millions of Muslim stealth jihadists with their thousands of mosques and madrassas already living in America as a 5th column on 9/11, the 9/11 jihadist attacks would have been completely impossible. Sort of like without millions of Muslim stealth jihadists with their thousands of mosques and madrassas already living in the UK as a 5th column, the 7/7 London Bombing would have been impossible.

In fact, if GWB had not been a stealth leftist masquerading as being a conservative, instead of expanding government and government spending like a delusional drunken leftist on steroids in response to 9/11 to create a false sense of security in order to continue accommodating mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage and at the same time to usurp Americans heretofore constitutionally protected rights and freedoms, to impose a Patriot Act upon the American people to monitor their private communications, and to impose extremely intrusive security checks, including the right to take pictures of their private parts and to manually search said private parts, he would have instead banned and reversed mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP and sealed off the borders at the same time.

Indeed, had he done those two simple common sense things instead, not only would we the American people not have wasted trillions of dollars, but zero Muslims in America translates to zero jihad attacks in America and no monstrous federal deficits and national debt at the same time.

While the leftwing lapdog media always propagandized that GWB was right wing, the truth is GWB didn’t have a right wing bone in his exceedingly leftwing body!

In any event, the Patriot Act in America along with the other aforementioned measures imposed on Americans in the name of security still doesn’t come close to approaching the lack of freedoms you delusional Euroloons are forced to contend with. But, of course, we Americans always had far more freedoms, rights, and privileges than you delusional Euroloons, as we Americans appreciate our freedoms and are prepared to fight and die to protect them.

It’s kind of hard to miss something you Euroloons never had before to begin with.

In addition, America is forced to dedicate approximately 40 percent of its CIA resources to your country because of the level of threats to America emanating out of the UK because obviously your country doesn’t have near the resources necessary to contend with the problem. Of course, if the USA simply used common sense and banned and reversed Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP that approximately 40 percent of CIA resources diverted to the UK could go to reduce our federal deficits.

 

Well, all name-calling aside, I personally prefer the approach of addressing what is definitely an equal danger to us as radical Islam -- nationalism.

Radical nationalism is the bulk of what inspired Breivik. It's the bulk of what inspired McVeigh as well.

We have numerous examples of nationalists in various countries that ended up as mass murderers.

So, it should logically follow that radical nationalism should be viewed with the same scrutiny as radical Islam.

 

Of course, you do, but the difference between those people and Breivek is those people weren’t unhinged. It doesn’t mean those people aren’t right.

Indeed, I see delusional leftists all the time expressing the same lunatic views as the Unabomber, however, the difference between the Unabomber and those mentally handicapped loons is the Unabomber actually acted on his delusions.

 

Actually, you are conflating what is terrorism with what is jihad. However, terrorism and jihad are two entirely different things altogether. As terrorism always involves violence usually directed against civilian non-combatants and is always perpetrated by non-Muslim political extremists and can be for any number of political causes. While jihad, on the other hand, can be both violent and non-violent, is always directed against unbelievers, either civilian non-combatants or military combatants, is always waged by mainstream orthodox Muslims only as opposed to political extremists as in the case of terrorism, and is always only in the cause of Allah, or at least it has been for the past almost 1400 years.

Thus, while Timothy McVeigh’s terrorist attack took place in 1995 and Breivek’s terrorist attack took place last week in 2011, a span of 16 years, you nevertheless want the government to devote as much resources for the prevention of terrorism as it devotes to preventing jihad, and never mind the fact that both violent and non-violent jihad takes place continuously throughout the world 24/7 everyday on a daily basis. Indeed, you couldn’t be anymore oblivious.

 

Would you be happier if I said "Let's just kill all the Muslims"?

 

Refuse to assimilate?

LOLOL

What theater.. It hasen't even been on generation.

 

You are not only incredibly boring but you are also a compulsive liar and a horrible one at that. The truth is you don’t have any Muslim friends because Muslims are forbidden from being friends with kafir infidel unbelievers like you. Indeed, you never cease to embarrass yourself.

Muhammad describes unbelievers as “the vilest of animals” and “losers.” Allah hates Christians and Jews to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom in the fires of hell as a result of their beliefs. Hence, it wouldn’t make any sense for Muhammad to then recommend that they be taken in as friends by Muslims.

Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur'an (3:2 - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution [taqiyya], that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that "believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly."

Qur'an (3:11 - "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, but it establishes the deep-seated paranoia that the rest of the world is out to get them.

Qur'an (9:23) - "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates "slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them").

Qur'an (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

Some Hadiths:

Muslim (1:417) - Taken to mean that one's own relatives should not be taken as friends if they are not Muslim.

Abu Dawud (41:4815) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man follows the religion of his friend; so each one should consider whom he makes his friend."

Abu Dawud (41:4832) - The Messenger of Allah [said] "Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious."

Bukhari (59:572) - "O you who believe! Take not my enemies And your enemies as friends offering them (Your) love even though they have disbelieved in that Truth (i.e. Allah, Prophet Muhammad and this Quran) which has come to you."

Ishaq 262 - "Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse"

Yeah right I pulled it out of a hat and then made it all up off the top of my head.

 

While you may be incredibly oblivious to Islam, don’t assume everyone else is nearly as ignorant. In any event, I don’t want to kill Muslims. In fact, I don’t want to have to kill Muslims period. I wish Muslims could say the same thing about unbelievers. I just want to ban and reverse mass Muslim immigration ASAP before it is too late and it does inevitably lead to war. I also want to render the Islamic world incapable of waging jihad perpetually per the dictates of Islam against unbelievers as well.