Debunking 6 Myths About Anders Breivik

Uhm…how many EU prime ministers, presidents, and chancellors have recently come forward to announce the failure of multiculturalism?

Believe it or not, not everyone is nearly as ignorant as you wish.

Read Bat Ye’or’s very prescient book, Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Dialogue, where she details with irrefutable documentation how the Islamic world successfully coerced the EC, the precursor to the EU, into throwing Israel and the USA under the bus and into accepting mass Muslim immigration, in exchange for cheap oil, via the 1973 Oil Embargo.

Thus, you are a very deliberate liar…it hasn’t been just one generation because mass Muslim immigration to the EU has been taking place ever since 1973.

Not to mention also that when you examine closely those countries with many generations of experience with mass Muslim immigration, you see a far greater level of violence perpetrated by Muslims upon non-Muslims trying to forcibly impose Sharia on the indigenous non-Muslim peoples, until eventually Sharia does becomes imposed like it did the other day in Cote D’Ivoire.

Of course, once that happens then the indigenous non-Muslim people that had their country forcibly usurped from them by Islam are subjugated into dhimmitude, where they become violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether, exactly like all Christian and other non-Muslim dhimmis living in every Muslim majority country in the world without exception.

 

For reasons you would never comprehend.... they have denounced multiculturalism..

How many times have YOU been to Europe since 1973?

Bat Ye'or is the pen name for a jewish woman from Egypt who is evidently too stupid to know that there have been no "dhimmis" for a couple hundred years.

 

Actually, most decent people consider importing Muslims via mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage into your country to impose its own extremely barbaric culture on European culture and at the same time to surrender your own culture without resistance or a fight to be in of itself extremely repulsive.

Indeed, why do so many leftwing delusional Euroloons in response to Islamic jihad attacks perpetrated by Muslims instantly fly off the handle and go into a mentally deranged rage demonizing the Crusades and Christians for actions which occurred centuries ago in the Dark Ages and has nothing whatsoever to do with jihad attacks perpetrated by Muslims today? Obviously, it’s because they have all been inculcated to hate their own culture and legacy.

One has to wonder what you and other self-haters like you find so appalling about your own culture that makes you so anxious to surrender your own culture to Islamic culture?

Notwithstanding your idiotic hyperbole, the reason those people don’t act is because they are not unhinged like Breivek.

By the way, defending your own culture and legacy isn’t race/religion hate propaganda unless you are extremely self-hating and incredibly delusional. Moreover, it is you self-haters that fly off into a rampage vilifying and demonizing Christianity in response to Islamic jihad attacks, when the truth is Christianity doesn’t have anything whatsoever to do with Islamic jihad attacks, and if that isn’t bigoted, then nothing is.

Furthermore, exposing the truth about Islam and to the threat it represents to our freedom and our own cultures isn’t racism. Now, of course, it is to you, but not everyone hates their own culture and is as unhinged as you self-hating delusional leftists.

Not just one gun happy nutcase to latch onto that kind of mentality, but one Unabomber also decided not to just spout about it either.

Breivek is delusional, not unlike Charles Manson, who thought his actions would also lead to a race war. However, your seething hatred for responsible gun owners in which I’m one, by the way, is very disturbing and scary to say the least. Indeed, I’m going to make sure to reload some more ammo tomorrow on Saturday to ensure I’m stocked up in the event you all of a sudden fly off the handle and go off into a rampage. You never know, especially the way you are talking. It’s better to be safe than sorry.

I know…every time I consider what the Unabomber and Jared Lee Loughner did, two leftwing moonbats, I often wonder how many other unhinged mentally deranged leftwing loons think what those morons did was wrong and how many privately think otherwise. I feel your pain man…I really do.

By the same token, there is also a huge amount of hatred expressed towards "conservatives," and it is a lot more pronounced since liberals emote and therefore carry their emotions on their shirt sleeves.

I can’t argue with that. I’m betting the primary reason Breivek targeted that Labor Party Youth Camp is because it was obviously an in your face youth indoctrination camp. Hence, if the left is going to be so blazoned and in your face about indoctrinating youths as if they are so-called Palestinians indoctrinating their youth to love death more than they love life, then the Labor Party itself deserves a good part of the blame for Breivek’s actions.

Perhaps the biggest ramification that will become of Breivek’s actions will be the Labor Party will no doubt dig in its heels even deeper on the issue of Multiculturalism just when the majority of Norwegians support ending Muslim immigration. Hence, if Breivek wanted to end Muslim immigration, he couldn’t have been any more stupid.

 

For work or pleasure?

Actually, Bat Ye’or is the one who coined the terms Dhimmi and Dhimmitude as she wrote the books on Dhimmis and Dhimmitude. In fact, she is the world’s foremost authority. No ones know more about Dhimmitude than Bat Ye’or. In fact, go look in the mirror. You are a dhimmi.

 

Her Jewish amily had to leave Egypt in 1956 because of Israel's involvement in the Lavon Affair and the Canal Crisis.

She just hot air and sour grapes... there were no Dhimmis in Egypt in the 1950s.

 

The doctored Facebook profile turned a "socially liberal, pro-Israeli neo-con (into) a Christian conservative, white supremacist." Friends also contradict the new Breivik characterization, Ulav Andersson telling Russia Today, it's not at all the man he knows, saying his racial antipathies were expressed in "mundane" mild terms, adding:
He wasn't opinionated, and "never came across as some kind of religious fanatic or anything." In fact, he had no defined ideology.
As the old US "To Tell the Truth" TV show used to ask: "Will the real Anders Breivik please stand up?" In fact, he did, but the tape showing it was deleted, replaced by a doctored one, conforming to how Western powers wish to portray him. Perhaps his manifesto was then altered.


http://www.rense.com/general94/oslo2.htm

 

Actually, her family had to flee Egypt to Britain like all Jews because of Islamic oppression and persecution.

Yeah right…Bat Ye’or, her family, all Jews before they were ethically cleansed with nothing but the shirts on their backs, and all Coptic Christians were dhimmis in the 1950s. Hell, the Copts still are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether to this day.

In addition, most academics consider Bat Ye’or to be the most preeminent scholar and leading authority of Islam in the world.

 

Most Zionist scholars NOT most scholars.

There were still lots of Jews in Egypt in 1973.. but many more left in 1967 when Israel attacked Egypt.

The Copts have an internal problem.

They don't permit divorce so many Copts convert to Islam to get divorced and then try to go back to their church.

But any children are cut out of their inheritance by Coptic law.

 

a bit of a stretch really.

you could certainly argue that he is not a typical christian, but then you could argue that muslim terrorists are not typical muslims.

yopu could argue that brievik is probably mentally deranged, but most of the OP suggests that the author actually supports breivik in some way, shape or form.

which maybe isn't that unusual, when you look at all the information out there:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1573167/FN-member-suspended-for-Breivik-support

regardless of what side you are on, there are always extremists who will justify extreme violence and the killing of innocents (there are no innocents according to them!) as part of their agenda.

 

Good post...The BBC, that paragon of objectivity and impartiality, which we, the UK license fee-payer's are forced to fund for fear of prison, is not it turns out, very objective or impartial after all. When muslim terrorists undertake their acts of depravity, the BBC routinely refers to the aformentioned acts as being undertaken by "muslim terrorists".

However, what this latest tragedy has highlighted, is when such acts of terrorism are undertaken by blue-eyed blonde nordic types, the preferred epithet is "gunman". The word "terrorist" is conveniently abrogated.

The BBC has already been flooded with complaints from the general public about this clear double standard. Why is it the case that there is one attributation of a term to describe terrorism undertaken by muslims and another less serious one to describe terrorism undertaken by blue-eyed blonde "Christans"?

 

Good luck with all that.

 

He used a Browning High Power insted of a Glock ...

 

I bow my head in shame. Rather than saying „Norwegian soulmate“ I should have bothered to type „the Norwegian, who has expressed views that are indistinguishable from those you've been expressing in this forum“. I found that a bit long-winded though, so I took the short-cut.

Sadly it seems that you don't have much of a problem with the bigoted bile these posters display whereas my moral compass tells me that it is utterly revolting, even more so now that somebody has acted on it and killed dozens of innocent people.

 

Aha, you don't want to kill Muslims, you just want to "reverse mass-immigration“. How mercyful!

So in practical terms you want to force my friend (yes my friend!) who was born here, has lived here all his life, speaks fluent German and has German citizenship to quit his good job , leave his girlfriend and most of his friends behind, say good-bye to his football-team and make him move to Turkey - a country he's only ever seen on holidays? Why? Only because you and some other people suffer from an overinflated paranoia concerning his religion?
Well, sorry, but not only would that be cruel on him but also on all of us who'd sorely miss him. So I strongly reject that suggestion along with all the others you've expressed in your rather long rants here.

 

simple.

its about "us" and "them".

when one of "our own" do something beyond the pale, then we have to demonise the individual - but when its one of "theirs" - then it obviously reflects on all of them, and the media reflects this.

what I have found repeatedly though in comments about this is the reference that teh kids shot were "leftists", or "socialists" or "attending a socialist camp"

or something along those lines.

sometimes, the way this is phrased seems to indicate that while it may not justify Brievik's actions ... but a lot seems to be made about the fact that the victims were "leftists"

I find that kind of creepy.

I am not sure what peopl

 

Really? So how do you explain this Muslim being called a gunman and not a terrorist in the BBC report:

The gunman is now said to be wounded after being shot four times, but is in a stable condition in custody.

source

Do you think it might be because of this?:

It is not clear what motivated the attacker, named as 39-year-old military psychiatrist Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

 

In todays BBC news:

Pakistani gunmen kill 11 Shias in second Quetta attack

No mention of these attackers being terrorists despite the liklihood of them being Muslim and an Islamic organisation claiming responsibility. I suppose this is because it is a "they" against "they" attack?

However when the BBC's own Alan Johnson was abducted in Gaza his abductors wer described as gunmen or militants but not terrorists.

Alan Johnston: My kidnap ordeal

Perhaps it depends on the territory and the foreign element? So that Breivic making the same kind of attack in say Turkey would make it more likely to be labelled terrorism?

 

More ranting crap from our resident Islamophobe. And where does this '40% of CIA resources' idiocy come from? Evidence please.

George Bush is a stealth leftist? Mate, you really do need to talk to a professional with a comfy couch.

Why do you think people ridicule all your rants? Think about it...

 

I've never read so much pathetic, paranoid and cowardly rubbish. How's life in the bunker?

 

It's very clear what motivated Breivik's attack though, isn't it? I hear he wrote 1500 pages to explain it and to inspire possible followers.

 

Not really...Its essentially because his establishment military status which designated that he was "one of us", overrode his minority ethnic/religious status.

 

Indeed so.

 

I think even for the BBC it has become increasingly difficult to sustain the fiction that Hamas are terrorists given that the majority of the international community no longer apply that outdated euphemism for a very good reason.

 

On the contrary, they would probably have turned it around by justifying his killing spree by depicting Breivic as having acted in self-defence against an irrational marauding mob of muslim terrorists.

 

I agree I think it has been creepy and I also think this is partly due to the media having been caught "on the hop" as it were. The fascist so-called English Defence League are clearly going to be cornered and isolated in their futile attempts at distancing themselves from the actions of this moron.

But as the Murdoch empire begins to crash around us, and thus the potential for a paradigm shift in both public and media attitudes occurs, no media proprietor worth their salt is going to be seen giving far right ideologues a platform from which to spout their propaganda of hate.

Paradoxically, fascists will attempt to flood sites like this instead..Already we are beginning to see this. I'm amazed just how virilant the level of Islamophobia is out there reflected in forums like this.