Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    "Passing" has to do with whether others perceive the individual as what they claim. A nonChristian absolutely can do that. Take Trump as an example.

    Perhaps the first use of "passing" was about whether someone with African American heritage could pass as "white"

    There was a whole nomenclature for that in America. For instance an "Octoroon" was someone 1/8 black by descent.

    Racist America had all sorts of names to identify blackness: mustefino (one-sixteenth African ancestry); quintroon or hexadecaroon were also used. A sambo was sometimes used for an individual of three-quarters black parentage.

    Then, white supremacists could search parentage to out those who were passing at some percentage level they believed was just too much African heritage.

    When I was a kid, there was a whole Denny's style restaurant chain called Sambo's - featuring a little black kid making butter for those really tasty pancakes as per the story of Little Black Sambo. By the 1960's, they made the kid more Indian by giving him a turbine, etc.
     
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    So a culture is only public holidays?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Other than having the day off work on Christian holidays, but not actually using that time off to observe the actual Christian element, how else is your wife so amazingly "culturally Christian?"
     
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    I loved that Sambo story, he was one of my childhood heroes which was unusual because he diden't wear a gun and ride a horse. How cool is it to melt a tiger to butter and eat him on your pancakes?
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    I got it at my grandparents house. Cool story if it weren't for the race focus.

    My parents sat me down on that one!! But, they cut my grandparents a bunch of slack.
     
  6. WillReadmore

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    I got it at my grandparents house. Cool story if it weren't for the US problem with racism.
     
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    Education is the system where you learn more and more about less and less until you finally know everything there is to know about not much.
     
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    Sure. We need to end education immediately.
     
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    We have to start education first; get away from thoughtless indoctrination, mindless brainwashing, and docile acceptance. Worry less about if five years know four ways to masturate and more that they can do math at grade levels, write a cogent thought, hell, even balance a check book by hand.
     
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    No, you're way more interested in just ending education.

    If you hire people to teach, it's possible that some of them will know about pedagogy.

    Also, who wrote that second sentence for you?
     
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    Actually, I think that it's more like five ways to masterbate, and ten ways to have sex that they are taught!
     
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    Wrong as usual. You are now o for the Twenty first century.
    A teacher. :p
     
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    It's a cool story anyway. It comes from a compilation of African/Slave stories that a man namedd Joel Chandler Harris put together to preserve the heritage of the slaves. Disney took Song of The South from them but he was trying to preserve an important part of their history.
     
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    It isn't that story that is focused on race.
     
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    In a nation permeated by racism, that story is clearly derogatory of dark skinned people.
     
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    No, it's not to most people. Rooting out all reference to Black people doesn't eliminate racism but it can prevent children learning history and context for folk stories.
     
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    LOL!! That racist story and its use in the restaurant business COULD be used in a class on American systemic racism, I suppose.

    But, eliminating it from public life doesn't mean an educator couldn't use it for that purpose.

    Your argument amounts to preserving racism, so that it provides material for teaching about America's racism!!
     
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    So you think those stories were born from racism?
     
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    Did I say that?
    Is there a reason why you attribute extreme words and/or expressions to something I didn't say?

    I was also baptized, confirmed, and raised a Catholic. I stopped going to Church long before I reached 20 and I officially renounce Catholicism in my 30's. I have documents signed by the Bishop and the Burgermeiter to prove it. The upshot is that officially I have no religion whatsoever but I'm still culturally Christian because I was raised Christian and I live in a country where Christian holidays are observed and celebrated. I agree that practicing Muslims are not culturally Christian despite living in my country so it obviously takes more than that to be culturally anything. Anyway, I think your gripe is mostly about people who are "anti" religion, and although I am very much anti-Christianity I still am culturally Christian.
     
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    I said:
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    So what did you mean?

    Ok, I should have instead asked: Other than having the day off work on Christian holidays, but not actually using that time off to observe the actual Christian element, how else is your wife "culturally Christian?" (Without the addition of "amazingly.")

    Ok, so you and Muslims both live in the country, so then what separates you from them in terms of being "culturally Christian?"
     
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    Sure - one can study where the story came from. Maybe it was a family bed time story in some African village where we captured non-humans to use as animals. How cute!

    But, as propagated in white society, it was clearly racist.

    This is not some lone example. Don't forget Aunt Jemima - an example of, the "Mammy" archetype in the Southern United States. I bet she did a great job of making pancakes for the white folk and bouncing the new crop of black babies on her knee.
     
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    I've explained this already ..... more than once.
     
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    I know a lot of “college educated” people that could get your car going.
     
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    It was those stories from some African village was how they kept their identity, how they remembered who they were. Slavery was dehumanizing and they fought back by remembering and those stories were a way of doing that.
     
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    Well said.
     

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