Employers Steal $15Bil From Workers Every Year

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again you are making no sense
    On the one hand you appear to be arguing that you did not join the Union because the food Industry's Union did not want to go on strike to create better conditions. This said and left says nothing.

    I amn't american and do not know what right to work states are.

    Here you are deliberately misrepresenting what I said and trying to put down and blame middle aged white working class men for being unable to get the job you now do without pay. You do not need the money but you take the job a younger man needs. You blame the Middle Aged white working class men for their inability to get a job and instead pretend it is those in their dotage who would turn to drink and drugs and suicide if they could not get a job. This just shows your total inability to feel empathy for your fellow human beings. You appear to be the one telling them it is their fault that the US can no longer provide for them the possibility for them to provide for their family. Your attitude is what is presenting the conditions which leads to others falling into drink, drugs and suicide and will lead to the American's of the future living like third world states now do. How simplistic a world you live in. All it is about is working hard. Those who do not get employment have themselves to blame. It is all their own fault. The only reason they are not able to provide a decent living for their families is because unlike you, the superior person, they will not work. You ignore all research which suggests different. Sad and pathetic.
     
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    Maybe you know a British expression, "I'm alright, Jack". It means he does not care if the whole world is starving as long as he has food and money.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As long as they are playing the fool on their own time, no foul. If it's on the employer's ticket they should be given the sack. I'm an old codger myself.
     
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    This guy is a paid plant, or some kind of mama’s boy alone with with his computer.
     
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    I’m alright, Jack. Damn! It’s good to be free and rich. I love America, and it’s mighty dollar. Thank goodness for capitalism. The poor and the hungry. Quit slacking off and get work. I’m alright, jack.
     
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    It's a bit misleading to claim that $2 a day will feed a dog, much less a human.
     
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    I'm not like you, belly-aching, about how bad the situation is for the working class. I am the working class, Why should I lower my standard of living for my family so that some young Turk can have my job. When the job was posted, where were those who wanted the job? Matter of fact, it was my wife's boss, who asked her if I was interested in the job. I guess no other person applied. I drive around town and see signs "Now Hiring" wherever I go. Our unemployment rate is about 3.5%. A "Right To Work State" is a State that does not require you to belong to a Union to work. In the past I have moved to different states to work. It beat the alternative of being on the government dole. Contrary to what you might think; Americans mainly enjoy working. I don't know where you think I am blaming anybody for anything concerning my present job. You are right that I don't need the money. I have three retirements, rental income and income from stocks in companies. Me and my wife combined make less per hour than any of our kids, and yet, we still save on a weekly basis. You do not need to be upper-class or even middle-class to be happy. One just needs to accept where they are today and make the most of it. Let tomorrow bring it's own adventure in growth.
     
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    Unfortunately it is mainly on the employers time. I could care less if one does it during lunch or breaks. I know that some would say "what business is of yours" ? When it causes me more work or effects my job security I believe it is plenty of my business.
     
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    People who live on 2 dollars a day live under different circumstances.
    BTW, they don't feed the dog, they eat it.

    I worked with a Vietnamese guy a few years back, who told me with a straight face.
    Vietnamese dogs taste better than American dogs.

    Needless to say, I never went to his house for lunch.
     
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    Putting it right is dead easy. Telephone check-in at the start of the work-day ..... and the push if you don't.
    See above paragraph.
     
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    I am reporting the situation. You have not shown that one thing I have said is wrong. Your response is simply a personal attack.

    Absolutely nonsense. You may believe yourself to come from that but suggesting you 'are' it or represent it is nonsense. You are someone who chooses to blame people who are now being hit by the economical system as being to blame for it themselves. You claim that they will not work and that is why they are losing. Sadly many of them believe you and that is what leads to the loss of self esteem and hope which has given rise to the massive increase in drink, drugs and suicide among wwc in the US - something which politicians are now using to create a hatred of the other - blaming the other for their situation. You wrongly blame them. They are encouraged to put their rightful anger onto another rather than confronting the real cause of the situation which is NeoLiberlaism.

    You already stated that you did not need the money. You suggested the reason why you at age 78 were not committing suicide or destroying yourself with drink and drugs was because you worked a 40 hour week. Given that you said you did not need the money your question about your standard of living going down if you did not work suggests you were being dishonest. It was you not me who claimed you did not need the money. That you consider anyone who does have need of a job and is denied of the job you are doing when you claimed you did not need the money, would be an 'alien' suggests xenophobia.


    The situation is about a lot more than you.

    You do not believe in collectively working to ensure better conditions for all workers. You believe only in as has been put 'I am all right Jack' so to hell with anyone else. As you have put it the only reason you believe people are suffering is because they, unlike you do not work hard enough. You believe the people nowadays suffer due to laziness something the 'baby boomers' with all their well noted advantages according to you never had.

    You are the person who has suggested they do not. Suggesting they do not get jobs because they do not want to work.

    I went by what you said but again you are showing you are being disingenuous. In this very post you have asked why you should lower your standard of living by not working 40 hours a week aged 78. Now you are again making clear you do not need the work. Some people find it hard to be within themselves and need distraction.

    all about you and because you are all right it is all the fault of younger people that they cannot get a job. You lived through the one time of plenty. You lived through a time when the American white working class provided they were prepared to work were able to achieve a far higher standard of living than their parents did and able to provide for their children in a way their parents could not. You massive mistake is in believing that because you, like the rest of your generation achieved this, those that follow have the same opportunities as you did. The American Dream which you lived through is no longer there regardless of how hard people are prepared to work.
     
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