Feds Creating Database to Track Hate Speech on Twitter

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  1. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is scary, and I have noticed it is totally supported by liberals. I'm curious when they lose their political power, would they still support the government gathering data on their outrage?
     
  2. Nemo

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    Collecting and analyzing intelligence information is the purpose of the National Security Agency (NSA); which agency is not violating any laws in the collection of bulk data. There is no express provision of the Constitution for a general right of privacy. There are scarce few constitutional protections on privacy, most being statutory (e.g., the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act). The Supreme Court has held individuals have no "legitimate expectation of privacy" regarding the telephone numbers they dial because they knowingly give that information to telephone companies when they dial a number. Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 at 742 (1979). Smith has not been overruled, and consequently an individual may not have cause to complain about the NSA surveillance actions.
     
  3. Gatewood

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    Not only would they be howling in outrage but will begin howling in outrage after a GOPer wins the presidency in 2016. That's just how they roll.
     
  4. HTownMarine

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    Or if you are tagged by the government for 'hate' speech (or rather, letting everyone know that Obama is the worst president in our history), then they just send your name to the IRS and let them work their magic.

    If you don't see the danger in this, you're oblivious.

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    You don't really believe that do you?
     
  5. Questerr

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    Just like how he uses the NTSB's traffic cams to strip bad drivers of their licenses right?

    Just because the government monitors something that doesn't mean that they attach a criminal penalty to it.
     
  6. Taxcutter

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    Big Brother is watching and listening. Just 30 years late.
     
  7. JavisBeason

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    define terrorists.... is the Teaparty a terrorist group? Nothing a good round of IRS tax audits can't fix, huh?


    that's the point we're trying to make.... under the guise of safety, they are spying on you and can use that against their political opponents to maintain power they have.


    you are way too trusting of the govt. I don't care if it's George W, or Obama in charge.... neither need to have me entered into a database because I criticized their policies, and they defined it as "misinformation" because they didn't like it.

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    he does when a democrat is in charge of defining what terrorism/misinformation/hate speech is.


    if it was Romney doing it, FA would be going nuts

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    it's a step closer towards the edge.
     
  8. Nemo

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    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor - he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation - he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city - he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared....”
    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 42 B.C.E.
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    The so-called “Tea Party Patriots” are simpletons: they are always bringing up the “founding fathers” and the Constitution - as if any of them ever read the Constitution, much less understand its provisions for the foundation of American government. “We want our country back!” they cry. It’s laughable. They are like the evangelical Christians that misquote the gospels and ask, insipidly: “What would Jesus do?” They are stooges and shills for those who would use them to their own cross-purposes - those who would undermine the very foundations of the nation. (There are some that believe they have the right to take up arms against their lawfully constituted government!) Beware those behind the Tea Party, those shadowy, anonymous people: They are not patriots; they are not loyal citizens; they are subversives.
     
  9. JavisBeason

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    I do agree with that. If you tweet "Obama is a horrible potus" and your job as a local democratic campaign manager is terminated.... that's not the same as getting arrested for tweeting out "Obama is a horrible potus", and your job isn't protected. I have said that even in cases I'm politically at odds at. Like the Mozilla CEO. I have no problem pointing out the hypocrasy in the outrage when a pro-gay person gets fired by a Christian organization for his public views either.


    but from an administration that will attack the IRS on Teaparty groups..... stuff like monitoring, and watch lists are only used for one purpose.... to target people they don't like or that are a threat to them.
     
  10. Talon

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    First of all, the government doesn't have any rights - people do.

    Secondly, what the hell is the government doing monitoring and classifying what it considers "subversive propaganda", "false and misleading ideas", "suspicious memes", "misinformation" and "hate speech"???

    Finally, how is spending $1 million on a "progressive" POLITICAL surveillance program a proper and wise use of taxpayer money when we are $17 trillion in debt and we have more important things like our porous borders and a jihadist terror state in the heart of the Middle East to monitor?

    The government's non-existent "rights" have nothing to do with this Big Brother BS.
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    I would not support such abuses, common sense...... I could say, but if one supports the terrorists, they probably don't support stuff like this to catch them..
     
  12. YouLie

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    There's no difference in either party when it comes to monitoring Americans. It won't stop, even if we made them pass laws to make it stop. You're naive to think that monitoring won't be used for nefarious purposes and against innocent persons.

    Oh, that's J. Edgar Hoover stuff. Couldn't happen now. Riiiiight.
     
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    But one must also stop to think why this has been brought about, the database that will be used to track hate speech. And the answer is a simple one. Because it is people who use hate speech and threaten others. That's obviously why this new database has been created. If there was no hate speech ever used then why waste time and money in such a project? But there is hate speech thus, a need to be able to control it before it goes haywire and gets completely out of hand and hurts others or worse.
     
  14. Talon

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    That's not what the people running this program said it's for. They made it clear that its raison d'ĂȘtre and intent is purely political.

    But never mind these inconvenient facts. Since you claimed it's for something completely different why don't you explain to everyone how creating a database of "subversive propaganda", "false and misleading ideas" and "suspicious memes" is supposed to catch terrorists.

    We're all ears...:popcorn:
     
  15. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Needless to say, the bleating and babbling of "progressives" would be deafening. But a purely political surveillance program targeting "subversive propaganda", "false and misleading ideas" and "suspicious memes" - especially the ones produced by the “shady machinery of high-profile congressional campaigns" *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge* is perfectly okay with the New "Progressive" McCarthyites.
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    I find it fascinating that an outfit that can't keep track of an employees emails, who can't keep track of $76,000,000 given to the IRS for the Obamacare rollout, and can't find and deport illegal aliens is going to track hate speech. And, the definition of hate speech will certainly exclude any speech no matter how hateful and violent by a Democrat/progressive/liberal/communist.

    It's not a surprise that the most racist administration in 75 years is going down this path.
     
  17. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love the stench of "progressive" fear and paranoia in the early afternoon (it's not just for mornings any more ;)).

    But don't despair comrades! The Dear Leader and the Party nomenklatura in the IRS are searching for the "subversive propaganda", "false and misleading ideas" and "suspicious memes" of the “shady machinery" of the counter-transformational reactionaries who cling bitterly to their Constitution and tricorn hats! They will not sleep until every last ungrateful TEA Party kulak is liquidated from our glorious political system!

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    FORWARD!!
     
  18. Nemo

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    The so-called "Tea Party" will be the demise of the Republican Party - and soon.
     
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    If anyone thinks that digital communication isn't tracked is extremely ignorant. Tracked and recorded. Digital footprint is there forever.
    Computers, cell phones, credit cards, it's all tracked by someone forever. If you engage with digital formats you leave a huge and deep footprint of your life, everywhere.
     
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    the Tea Party has been called terrorist so is it then anyone that endorse the tea party platform then can be labeled as a terrorist
    see how one side can shut down the other by labeling them terrorist there for silencing them under the guise of national security
     
  21. Talon

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    Well, if our Obama-worshipping friends who drop the race card at the mere whiff of criticism are any indication of where this "progressive" surveillance program is headed, any disagreement with The Infallible One will be deemed "hate speech" and the violators turned over to the Inquisitors at the IRS for questioning.
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    so instead of passing laws to keep that from happening you accept and even endorse it as long as it is used against your opponents
     
  23. dairyair

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    How in the he?? did you come up with this ludicrous nonsense? Holy moly their are some weirdos out there.
     
  24. BestViewedWithCable

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    Then whats the purpose of the database?

    Are you suggesting this is just another one of obamas plans to toss tax payer dollars in the trashcan, or what?
     
  25. Talon

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    Is that supposed to excuse the government for spending $1 million of hard-earned taxpayer cash on a purely political surveillance program that monitors and creates a database of "subversive propaganda", "false and misleading ideas" and "suspicious memes"?
     

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