Fox: It's Extraordinary That Charleston Church Shooting Is Being Called a Hate Crime

No translation necessary, info was posted you ignored it and hit some talking points and sprinkled BS dust to cover the scent of partisanship.

Then you proceed to spam emotional nonsense about apologists and smoke screens mixed with a dab of undocumented claims about mass killings, all the while ignoring the reality that addicts, mentally ill, unsupervised psychotropic drug recipients and racists can all be true at the same time.


Translation: you're just dancing around yelling look at me I've got a squirrel!

Do carry on though.

 

I already told you. Letters of Marque carriers privately armed ships and armed merchantmen were common. Casting cannon was not especially difficult, only somewhat costly for the time. Hell, the British Navy would sell off excess naval cannon with their ships in ordinary. When they went to a firing lock system, the entire compliment of cannon of the Navy was sold over more than a decade and you're talking about literally thousands of cannon. A classic example is the lower deck guns of the HMS Victory was converted from match fired 42 pounders to firing lock 32 pounders. The excess 42's were all sold off to any willing buyer. This happened over hundreds of ships and that's just in the Royal Navy. The American was much smaller and did the same thing. You're really an idiot.

 

"Who told me that"? History did.

When the 2nd Amendment was written and ratified, "well regulated" was commonly used in everyday context. See the following...

Now replace the above "well regulated" phrases with "government controlled" and tell me if any of those statements make any sense. The answer is "no", they do not make sense.

Back then, "Well regulated" meant "well functioning".

Now replace the above "well regulated" phrases with "well functioning" and tell me if any of those statements make any sense.

 

So, what you are saying is that the people of that time were stupid and misused "well regulated" in their everyday use of the English language and the anti-gun liberal lawyers and judges of modern times know exactly what they meant to say?

 

Don't bother, they think those wacko militias that are around are state regulated.

 

Here you go. It's a fact. Now get over it.

Private citizens had far more ships and guns than did the Continental Navy

 

I am a little confused by your comment. What I meant by "speculation" was the talk about this being an attack with any purpose, whether it was religious based on race based. After all that was settled and we heard from the witnesses, everyone is saying that this was a race based attack, including Fox. So I want to say that we are on the same page in regards to the attack. As to the region, sure there has been significant racism in the past, however that does not automatically mean that this attack was racist without more evidence, testimonies, and what-have-you.... WHICH all did come forward and blatantly point out that this was race based. The shooter himself acknowledged this and even if he hadn't, his website or blog, manifesto obviously did. So again, I feel that we are on the same page.

 

The president has HAD to address the nation and use the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) word on Moron's podcast. He's using his position to stir up hate. He's the one with the mantra.

You keep bringing up GUN death like it's comprehensive. If you look at total murder rates, you'll find that they are much closer. I'm sure your "gun deaths" include justifiable homicides, which shouldn't count because they are usually a good thing, unless you'd rather see innocent victims. Lately in Texas, armed civilians have been killing more criminals than police. Having a porous 400 mile border between Texas and Mexico doesn't help our crime stats either. Border states are a filter for the rest of the US. You're welcome.

 

Did you read the piece? Its 100% wrong.

 

Yes... the other tens of thousands of users should conform to your idea of how things should work.

I will reply when you figure out how to use the site. I am not dissecting your lazy posts and doing the work for you. When I quote you, the quoted text does not appear. I would have to manually copy your replies to respond to them individually.

 

Believe it or not, there actually are some hate crimes targeted against "christians", but they are nowhere near what that preacher on Fox alluded to. Check this out: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...ime-statistics-utterly-destroy-fox-news-lies/

In 2013 there were 7,242 hate crimes committed in the US. In total, crimes against protestant Christians amounted to .0051 percent, a tiny fraction of a percentage point.

 

The first sentence in your screed needs verification. Please provide PROOF that there is "selective" prosecution of hate crimes by either/or local/federal authorities. If you can't, then all you're doing is just blowing smoke because YOU don't like the FACT that this incident in S.C. is just ANOTHER example of the racist mindset regarding black folk in American that is active and deadly.

 

The persecution really picks up around CHRISTmas for some reason

 

Or the black preacher found them. Either way, don't shoot the messenger. The preacher was wrong. It was racially motivated. With the purposive suppression by the media of black on white crime, the relentless attempts of the media to portray Whites as (buzzword) RACISTS,
the denial of qualified whites to universities, the lowering of civil service exams to boost non-white hiring, the ENDLESS suggestion from the media, the president, the ex-anti white AG who exonerated the Philly voter intimidators, that white racism is STILL A PROBLEM, despite the fact that Obama was elected; is it really a surprise that a disturbed kid would explode?

 

FYI, Joseph: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes/overview

 

For simple clarification:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

 

I think Holder saying that whites are not protected under hate crime laws says all you need to know.

 

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*). You are NOW talking about the military reserves and the Guard. Stop it already, you tried to say that those wacky backwoods militias were state regulated, as in controlled.

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The point is, the max anyone can get is the DP. You can get that for 1st degree murder which a hate crime actually is. If the penalties are no worse, then the crime is no worse, someone is still dead.

 

If you're going to parrot me, Jackson, at least get up to intellectual speed. You don't DARE address directly ANY of the source material I provide...especially the last one that shreds NRA stooge LaPierre's pathetic treatise with some valid, documented FACTS that he either overlooks or ignores.

Bottom line: racism was and is a factor in the church shooting...the cops were correct to pursue it as a hate crime based on the evidence, and they were proven right. The evidence shows the perp was well into this mindset well before his delving into drugs. Deal with it, or in your case don't.

 

Spare me the regurgitation, will ya please? YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT AN INDIVIDUAL FARMER, VILLAGE SMITH, OR SHOP KEEP FOR THAT MATTER WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE A CANNON. All you're doing is supposition and speculation. Bottom line: the 2nd amendments points to MILITIA.....do your homework as to how that was set up, and stop wasting my time with your bluff and BS.

 

So (*)(*)(*)(*)ing what. You never heard of a racist killing people before? Is this something new to you? It happens all across the globe and it will be something that is always present in every society. I don't know why you are so surprised by these revelations.

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You certainly are no authority on militias. You tried to say those backwoods militias are state run.

 

Now you're just rambling on about items covered elsewhere in your absence.

Do proceed.

 

Might be more useful if, rather than just throw around random facts, they used useful ones such as what percentage or legally obtained weapons are used in crimes, what percentage or straw purchased weapons are used in crimes, of the 1000+ sales at gun shows what is the average amount of those weapons used in crimes? The fact that AR-15s are apparently one of the more popular weapons and used in about 1% of crimes (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF) indicating that they are not an issue. You can throw facts around all day but unless you line them up to make sense they're worthless. All the site you linked is trying to do is scare people into thinking what could be rather than actually proving anything.

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I don't believe you should be limited in your Claritan use because of meth heads. I'm also curious, do you need to go to the pharmacy with your friend and run a background check proving their not a meth head before you give them some Claritan or does that as ridiculous to you as it does to me.

 

There's the difference, they were calling certain singular people thugs, not the entire race. Course "some" people don't understand that difference and think that they can call the whole race "thugs" and think it's okay because Obama and Holder called specific people thugs.

The website features a manifesto where Roof wrote he was radicalized via the Internet following the Trayvon Martin case. Roof wrote he researched "black on white violence," which took him to the website of South Carolina-based hate group the Council of Conservative Citizens (formerly the White Citizens' Council).

“(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s are stupid and violent,” Roof wrote, which should eliminate any doubt about his motive.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ston-church-shooting-suspect-dylann-roof.html

Oh, no, it's not subtext racists on the internet's fault at all oh no, wait, what?

Please, spare me.

 

I know what a hate crime is, why do you keep insisting I don't?

1st degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that is both willful and premeditated. Just because hate was a motive should not effect or change anything. Killing someone because of their race, religion, sexual proclivity, etc... is no more heinous or despicable than killing someone over money or personal gain. Ifyou want to pretend it should that is certainly your prerogative, but it is a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ty attitude towards human life in general.