Germany military leader in Europe!

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cold War? That is ancient! Ramstein is used intercontinentally in the drone war in the M.E.

    US Ramstein Base Key in Drone Attacks
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    The intelligence service diagrams reveal that there are two places in the world right now that are indispensable in the drone war: Ramstein and Creech, a hermetically sealed town in the Nevada desert. The Air Force base, one hour northwest of Las Vegas by car, serves as a relay hub for 10 Air Force bases in different US states. State-of-the-art fiber-optic cables guarantee the rapid transmission of data, which is also sent to the National Security Agency and to Ramstein in Germany.


    Read more here:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international...y-a-key-center-in-us-drone-war-a-1029279.html
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    Martin Schulz, running for chancellor, wants to get rid of US war heads!!
    The Germans are literally sitting on a cinder block... anytime... BOOM!!
    Ramstein is also the place where wounded American service men get flown for first treatment in a state-of-the-arts hospital.
    Plus it has its spy operations/facilities right there as well. (Spying on Merkel!)
    Ramstein is the largest military base outside of the US.
    I can't see they will leave anytime soon.
    If Trump dares to dismantle it, he will be dismantled first!
    Ramstein is like the American thumb on Europe.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia always threatens the West? How?
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right now they do!
    Read my answer # 101.
     
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    You just write some nonsense. I'm even surprised. Ask yourself a simple question - who took Berlin? Try to answer it correctly. Hint - it was not Brad Pete. If you correctly answer it, you will not write nonsense about the Second World War.

    By the way, you did not write anything about "Operation Cottage". And what do your uncles say about the battle in the Ardens?
    Do they tell you about how Roosevelt and Churchill begged Stalin to begin the offensive a month earlier than planned? In order to draw the forces of the German army from Arden to the eastern front. Do your uncles thank Russian soldiers? Who perished in battle with the Germans for the sake of the American allies. Because only thanks to the Russians your uncles were still alive.

    Overlord operation is a shame.

    Against the 380,000 German troops at the beginning of the operation, 1,452,000 Allied soldiers were concentrated.
    The personnel of the "Atlantic shaft" was formed from the reserves, only to those that limited are fit for military service (in other words - people with disabilities). Thus, the seventieth Infantry Division was fully staffed by people with diseases of the gastrointestinal tract, all of them needed to constantly adhere to the strictest diet. The same of the soldiers who were healthy, belonged to the old age limit. In support of them were sent frankly not wishing fight Czechs, as well as rabble from the national formations of legionary renegades.
    Similar them was the officers. The staff officer of the reserve army, Colonel Stauffenberg, was one-handed and one-eyed, many officers approached him for health reasons. In addition, many representatives of the Wehrmacht command with the Western allies did not want to fight. For example, on July 1, 1944, Field Marshal Rundstelle was dismissed from the post of the army commander in the West. It turned out - for obsessions to the Fuhrer on the conclusion of a separate peace.....

    But you are proud of the operation "Overlord". It's like being proud of a victory, for example in the Panamanian war. Or landing on Grenada.....However,.... I'm not an American.... Maybe you really have nothing more to be proud of.
     
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    No one of decency, integrity, or knowledge denies the great efforts of the Russian people in The Great Patriotic War.

    But that does not mean The West will ever trust Mother Russia to stay East of Poland.
     
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    You may be right but if that's the case what good did all this do during Benghazi? The thumb should have been on the Islamists. Drones certainly didn't do much good either.
     
  7. Jazz

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    Sorry, Jeannette, for taking so long. And I am sorry, your uncle had to suffer.

    I googled about Haidari Camp...
    http://research.omicsgroup.org/index.php/Haidari_concentration_camp

    The Germans only operated the camp from Sept. 43 until Sept. 44. Unfortunately, the first camp commandant was a brutal guy with a Polish name, Radomski. He was a drunkard and was fired after he tried to shoot his own adjutant.

    I couldn't find anything in English on the 800 000 starved Greeks as a result of the German occupation. But a German site provides an interview with a Greek author in English. She mentions the figure of a quarter of a million (250 000).
    It is always good to triple things and then some, when it comes to German misdeeds!


    Here is the website:
    https://rdl.de/beitrag/und-die-griechen-starben-der-hungertod-w-hrend-der-besatzung-im-2-weltkrieg

    And here her book:
    https://books.google.ca/books/about..._Greece_1941.html?id=aTJnZzBYOW8C&redir_esc=y

    About present-day Greek problems I have no idea. Perhaps Sobo could help out and tell us why Germany refuses to pay.

    About walling themselves in, I don`t think that is on Angela`s agenda.
     
  8. Jazz

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    Well, I don`t think the Americans are the smartest on the block. They goof occasionally, too.
     
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    Sure, hide behind the tough Germans!!!
     
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    We could give a M. S. on Goofing Up Simple Things
     
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    They are tough indeed.
     
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    Why not MA - master's degree of arts?
     
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    There's a good reason that they are the most popular country in the world (according to a BBC poll)

    “BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/bb...tions-1.525890

    EXCERPT“The annual BBC World Service poll finds Germany most popular; only countries less popular than Israel are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran.”CONTINUED

    Not only did Germany rebuild itself from utter destruction but it was the Germans who, in reality, "...made the desert bloom" in Palestine.
    While foreign Zionist terrorist gangs were off massacring Palestinians and stealing their land, it was the industrious Germans who built virtually all of early Israel's infrastructure including giving the Israelis 60 ships, 3 power plants including grid work, steel mills, the railway system including the trains to go on it etc



    (1) “Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship”
    http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship/

    EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry.

    In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED


    (2) “The Reparations Agreement of 1952 and the response in Israel”
    http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Engl...Agreement.aspx



    EXCERPT “As part of the reparations, many goods reached Israel which helped the state economy to stabilize over the years. For example, Israel received new-fangled German-manufactured trains, which were operated for a number of years by the Israel Railways”CONTINUED
     
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    To be honest, I had no idea what the Greeks suffered in WWII under the Germans until I began looking for statistics. To be honest, I'm shocked at their ruthlessness, but I shouldn't be after reading Correli's Mandoline. I couldn't sleep for two weeks because of what they did to the Italian soldiers.



    Here are a few excerpts from Zero Hedge. I did come across the number of 750,000 somewhere starving to death, which might include cities and islands outside of Athens. But there are accounts that in Athens alone it was 300,000.

    According to the article the Greek government has to examine 40,000 German archives to know exactly what was done to Greece during the war, and what the intent was.


    “Greece lost 13% of its population during WWII. One part was lost in the battlefield, but the largest part due to Famine and the Nazis’ atrocities.”

    The Great Famine was initiated by a large scale plunder by the Axis forces and as soon as the German army entered Athens 0n 27. April 1941. The Nazis confiscated fuel and all means of transportation, including fishing boats, preventing any transfer of food and other supplies and seized strategic industries. They proceeded with the wholesale and food looting , unemployment and hyperinflation skyrocketed, the black market flourished. The price of bread was increased 89-fold from April 1941 to June 1942.

    During the winter of 1941-1942, the food supplies system had collapsed, the famine was in its peak and mortality exploded.

    According to the records of the German army the mortality rate only in Athens reached 300 deaths per day during December 1941, while the estimates of the Red Cross were much higher, at 400 deaths while in some days the death toll reached 1,000.

    Next to Famine, the atrocities committees by the Nazi occupiers against the locals ended up in the “murdering of residents in 89 cities and villages, they burned down more than 1,700 villages and killed many of their residents,”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...leases-disturbing-footage-emaciated-adults-du
     
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    And yet Germany still haven't made reparations to Greece for WWII. Instead they forced Greece into deeper and deeper debt to pay off their banks. As for their popularity, propaganda works. Isn't Brexit because of Germany?
     
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    When you're an aggressive culture, and want to covet from another the way the West has been trying to do for centuries towards Russia, then of course you will assume they want to steal from you as well. It's called projection. The West has nothing that Russia needs or wants, while Russia has 270 trillion dollars worth of natural resources.

    The only thing that keeps Russia from becoming a very wealthy nation, is its small population. This is why Vladimir Putin is giving out free land to all people in the world of Russian heritage as well as Slavs who want to retain their traditions and culture. He's smart in that, because to invite people in of alien cultures, will only cause problems later on.
     
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    Thank you, dear Grau, for talking so favorably of my birth country.
    I`m happy for Israel to have become beautiful and blooming.
    Now the Germans need to help the poor Greeks who also suffered during the Second WW.
    And the Gypsies should not be forgotten.
    Poland is still not happy and wants another billion Euros from Germany...
    https://www.tag24.de/nachrichten/wa...s-zu-eine-billion-euro-von-deutschland-306415
    It just keeps going! But as Merkel said about taking in a million+ refugees... `wir schaffen das! We can do it!`
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it is the usual Nazi bashing. Zerohedge.com can`t go wrong with that.
    I googled their existence and reputation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge
    It is Bulgarian owned, just three guys write, pretending there are 40 guys, pro Russia and with that automatically anti-Nazi. Content best described as "half-baked hooey"!
     
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    Are you payed for your anti German propaganda? Otherwise you wouldn't repeat your lies frequently without being ashamed.
     
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    It's been over 70 years since WW 2 & even though Germany was bombed into oblivion, it managed to rebuild not only itself but Israel too.
    How long is this ridiculous Reparations racket supposed to go on. Germany has paid dearly enough in many ways

    RE:
    What propaganda? Germany is successful because of hard work and innovation (1)

    RE:
    I don't know. What makes you think so?

    (1) "Top 10 countries for innovation: U.S. leads; Germany, Japan follow"
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-10-countries-for-innovation-us-leads-germany-japan-follow/


    EXCERPT "GE's new Global Innovation Barometer indicates that global executives believe the U.S. leads the world in innovation. Behind it? Germany, Japan and China.


    The top 10, along with the percentage of agreement, below:

    1. U.S.A. (67 percent)

    2. Germany (44 percent)

    3. Japan (43 percent)

    4. China (35 percent)

    5. Korea (15 percent)

    6. India (12 percent)

    7. Sweden (8 percent)

    8. U.K. (7 percent)

    9. Israel (6 percent)

    10. France (4 percent)"CONTINUED
     
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    The only thing that slowed the German people down was Communism in the eastern half of the country, and they've largely recovered from that. The only thing that many fear -rightly or wrongly- is German domination, either financially or militarily.
     
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    What would be wrong with German financial domination of the EU. Somebody's got to be the financial leader & Germany is one of the more responsible & stable European Governments
     
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    Thank you, Grau, for standing up for Germany! I appreciate it very much. Seldom does a former enemy talk favorably about the Germans.

    You may have forgotten that your country in 1945 robbed the Germans blind. Not only did they take all the gold they could find, art treasures and anything else they wanted, but...

    One of the greatest ripoffs of all time was the theft of German patents after World War II.

    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/patents.html

    That's why the US is # One now in innovations. Read the article! I could cry, especially over all the great and wonderful Germans that got killed in the war. And afterwards the Americans kidnapped and pressured the remaining scientists.
    Because of this enormous theft-advantage are the Americans now the leading terrorist in the world, controlling most countries or threatening them with "Democracy"!
    Germany has become their willing slave, fighting their wars in far away lands; doing whatever the US wants them to do.

    I have always wondered, how come the US got the Atom bomb so quickly after the war. Here is an excerpt about just that:
    [​IMG]
    Gen. Alfred Jodl, Wehrmacht chief of staff (center with pen) representing post-Hitler head of state Adm. Karl Dönitz, signs unconditional surrender documents at Rheims, France on May 7, 1945. On that date the submarine U-234 was en route to Japan with 12 cylinders containing microfilm material on Germany's most advanced weaponry, including advanced atomic research. In fact, Germany was capable of producing an A-bomb. On May 17 Adm. Dönitz ordered the U-boat's captain to surrender to the U.S. Navy without destroying its top-secret cargo.

    How tragic that Japan, for whose use this precious U-234 cargo was destined, became the recipient of two atom bombs.

    Read the link, I highly recommend it, before the internet gets completely censored about these truths. Knowledge about that time is so rare and precious.
     
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    Mr. Dobbs, look at your own blessed country HOW it dominates the world!!! What are you fearing? Your own medicine, perhaps? Don't worry, not in your life time!
     
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    Are you saying that Greece should be satisfied that Israel received reparations, even though Greece received nothing? Now that's brilliant. :wall:

    Look, I don't dislike Germany for its past greed and misdeeds. It's just that Germany is now using economic rather than military means to enslave Europe...and they have no qualms about it. As I stated before, I give the EU a two year survival rate. Germany will be to blame for its break up.
     

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