GREAT AGAIN: Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unlike former President Obama, President Trump didn't embarrass America and bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia.

    President Trump is on track making America great again even with all of the obstructionism and sedition from the left.

    Americans can now again hold their heads high again and no real American would ever bow to any monarch in the world.

    Except community organizers, snowflakes and pantywaist liberals.


     
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    It is Great to be Great Again! And what a job Trump is doing on the debt!

    As of today, President Trump decreased the US Debt since his inauguration by (-$100) Billion.

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    President Obama on the other hand increased the US debt in his first four months by $659 Billion.

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    The difference between Presidents Trump and Obama is $760 billion of debt or nearly three quarters of a trillion dollars!

    JOBS!

    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics President Trump added a projected 738,000 jobs in his first four months (January through April 2017.) President Obama on the other hand lost more than 3 million jobs in his first four months. (President Obama was so bad at creating jobs that by the end of his second term he said that jobs were not coming back.)

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    Unemployment

    Also according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics President Trump decreased unemployment every month since his inauguration (January through April 2017.) The unemployment rate in January 2017 was 4.8% and by April it was down to 4.4%.

    President Obama on the other hand again moved in the opposite direction. In his first four months as President the US unemployment rate increased each month from 7.8% in January 2009 to 9% by April of 2009.

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    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ident-trumps-economy-thumps-president-obamas/

    Received like a King abroad, doing a GREAT job at home!
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    But wait and see what he does in Rome.

    Will he kneel before the Pope ?!
     
  4. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will see.

    But as CnC I'm pretty sure Trump knows military etiquette from his six years in the Army Jr. ROTC. As you may have noticed when Trump returns the hand salute he has it right. Clinton and Obama never got it right. President Reagan had a pretty good snappy U.S. Cavalry officers salute.

    No member of the United States military shell ever bow from the waist to a monarch.

    While standing erect and at attention a quick bow of the head is acceptable.

    No America should ever bow to a monarch and most monarchies throughout the world are aware of this. They don't expect or demand an American to bow. We Americans look upon the common man being equal to any king, president or dictator.

    Now bowing to any respectable woman is acceptable.

    President Eisenhower bowed from the waist to the Queen of England once.
     
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    The guy chooses Wahhabi Arabia as the first place to visit, to be followed by a trip to Israel, and is plotting strategy aimed at cementing America's ties to the Wahhabis and the dictators in the Middle East against Iran, and you are worried about whether he "bowed" to the Saudis? Obama may have bowed a bit too much to the Wahhabis, but he obviously didn't bow enough in what matters to them since they were quite upset with Obama and rather thrilled with Trump!
     
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    It became an American thing right after we won our independence from King George.

    No American bows to anyone.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    WOW!!!

    I didn't even know that!!

    The only thing that sucks about my vote for Trump is that likely no other vote in my lifetime will be anywhere near as good and meaningful..

    GF says she is getting tips at work like never before and I scored a job better than I had ever before imagined..
     
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    I am suggesting the "bowing" you should worry about isn't so much what you are focusing on, but in what is actually being done. A long time ago, Trump took the bows that allowed him to become a billionaire and tied his fortunes to people who are now buddy buddy with the Wahhabis. That is the bowing that you should focus on more.
     
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    I'm willing to bet that Trump is well aware that Saudi Arabia plays both sides and aren't really our friends but just act friendly towards America.

    It has more to do with having an ally when dealing with Iran and other Islamist jihadist.

    I know a few people have personally met and done business with the "House of Saud" over the past few decades and from what I was told they don't sound much of being Whahhabis." When they board their big business jets and are abroad, the champagne flows.
     
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    When was Trump ROTC?

    Donald Trump Couldn't Graduate From ROTC - The Federalist
    thefederalist.com/2015/08/24/donald-trump-couldnt-graduate-from-rotc/
    Aug 24, 2015 - If Donald Trump tried to join the military, they wouldn't let him in. If he were in the military, he would be disciplined. If he were in ROTC
     
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    LOLOL.. The Saudis liked Obama and he too was given the royal treatment and the medallion.
     
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    Yes I guess they are two of a kind in many ways

    https://theintercept.com/2017/05/18...ow-hes-going-there-on-his-first-foreign-trip/
     
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    The Saudis have been very loyal allies and they have always been pro-America.. Heck 40,000 Americans live and work there.
     
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    Iran is not the place to look for Islamist jihadists! We aren't after any Islamic caliphate; in fact, Iranians rallied behind the Shia banner in large part to deny legitimacy to any Islamic caliphate that might have set eyes on Iran.

    As for the Saudi royal family, they are corrupt and don't care about any ideology. You are right on that score. But they lead a state whose foundations rest on Wahhabi ideology and promote that ideology around the region. They do so in part because the Wahhabi ideology of these jihadists is intrinsically anti-Iranian and anti-Shia. And the Saudis, like the Israel, are obsessed with Iran and both have been working with whoever and whatever it takes to help them on that front.

    Trump, incidentally, isn't bowing so much to the Wahhabis in his trip to their deserts, but is bowing very much to the Israelis. And the folks connected to Israel who have for so long helped his businesses, including bailing him out when he was in financial trouble. And since the Israelis are now working closely with the Wahhabis on their anti-Iran coalition, Trump is there to signal his support.
     
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    The Saudis aren't obsessed with Iran. Leave Yemen and Bahrain alone... and quit funding Hezbollah and they will completely forget about Iran.
     
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    Trump attended the New York Military Academy from 1958 to 1964. Back in the day the NYMA was an Army jr. ROTC school commanded Army reserve field grade officers and SNCO's.

    Most of the ROTC military schools in America closed their doors during the 1970's during the liberal led anti military movement in America during the 70's.

    But before the 1970's ROTC military schools were all over Americas. They use to be an American icon before they were declared to be politically incorrect.

    Comparing todays military schools or Jr. ROTC programs of those before the mid 1970 is like comparing apples to oranges. Back before the mid 70's you were issued a real rifle usually a 30-06 03-Springfield, drilled on the parade ground, stood guard duty, went to the rifle range and lived in dormitory barracks under military conditions and the same military regulations as the regular military. It's where you sent your son when he was a pain in the butt.


     
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    All my friends from Arabia went to boarding schools, some military schools like LaSalle Academy, Culver Military or Admiral Farragut... or prep schools like TASIS or Marymount or Notre Dame.
     
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    While you like to apologize for them, you don't speak for Wahhabi Arabia. But the half a million cables from various Saudi missions around the world which have been made public and which showed the kind of unusual and bizarre obsession the Saudis have with Iran did clearly. And since then, with their obsession out in the open, the Saudi officials have been publicly saying and doing exactly what they used to say more quietly and in a more circumspect manner in their cables and the like.

    There is also a point about the foundations of Wahhabi ideology that only a few, truly knowledgeable historians and scholars, understand and is too complicated for me to discuss here. But those foundations are related to how the entire Wahhabi ideology is ultimately an attempt by the Bedouin Arabs, who had found themselves sidelined after the rise of Iranian influences during the Abbasid period and subsequently under various rulers who adopted the new "Iranian Islam" (not to be confused with the sunnii-shia divide) that had supplanted the Islam of the Bedouin Arabs and had them eventually sidelined politically as well, to reclaim their lost position by promoting the pristine and pure Islam of the Bedouin Arab culture before its alleged corruption under Iranian influences. In this formulation, the Wahhabis aren't so much anti-Shia because of the original Sunni-Shia divide in Islam, and aren't anti-Iranian because of Shia Islam, but are anti-Shia because they are anti-Iranian. Anti-Iranian because the true spirit and culture of Iran is against everything they stand for and because Persian civilization and culture had always been a dominant and powerful force in the region's history. And that Persian culture and civilization has always worked to sideline the Bedouin Arabs to where they belong.
     
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    Trump's favorable royal welcome is unprecedented in recent history. It was a celebration...even the 81 year old leader almost ran to the edge of the red carpet to meet Trump. The MSM will now probably start publishing stories about a Trump/Saudi conspiracy.
     
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    I'm sure glad my parents didn't send me off the military school when I blew up the garage.

    Back when America was still great you would wake up on Christmas morning and find maybe a Daisy Red Ryder BB gun or an erector set or a chemistry set. It was that chemistry set that led to me blowing up the garage.

    Inside the chemistry set was every thing you needed from building the ultimate bomb like in my case to making LSD.

     
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    Not only did Trump not bow, but Melania kept her head uncovered. :applause:
     
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    Dinner at Murabba palace is standard for visitors. I had dinner there in 2000.. and Melania will probably visit with the women of the al Nahda Society.
     
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    The only woman I remember covering her head in KSA was Barbara Walters.. I've met 5 Saudi kings and never covered my hair.
     
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    I never mentioned a dinner.
     
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    The only military schools that I was ever aware of from their alumni in the military is the 4 academies and VMI -- Virginia Military Institute.
     

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