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How Did Donald Trump cheat in the 2016 election?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Dayton3, Jan 24, 2020.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holy smokes. ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVES YOU ARE WRONG. Evidence in the hands of our intel agencies and evidence produced by Mueller's report. OMG, you folks are ridiculous in your denial of the facts.
     
    Lee Atwater, Jan 25, 2020
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  2. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    No it wasn't.
     
    Dayton3, Jan 25, 2020
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Much like the left feel Hillary has been investigated and committed no crime, in spite of Comey's testimony?
     
    Marine1, Jan 25, 2020
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can throw his couple of million dollars into facebook advertising if he likes. Truthfully, that is the least of my worries.
     
    FAW, Jan 25, 2020
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love how Democrats always can read minds in regards to motive, but if anyone with an opposing view tries their hand at interpreting motive, then it is unequivocally a lie. It is their interpretation or nothing. Gotcha.
     
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    FAW, Jan 25, 2020
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    Good Lord!

    Using the Russians as a means to attack an election is OK?
     
    Nemesis, Jan 25, 2020
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  7. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What evidence specifically? Do you mean evidence where they helped Trump? While there is also evidence where they helped Hillary, admittedly that is far less, and I will readily admit that overwhelmingly their proportianally infinitessimal help did go toward Trump, but does that PROVE their motive? Does that prove that they wanted Trump?....or is it a reflection that they wanted to prop up whom they and everyone else thought would lose?

    If you have evidence of their actual motive that can differentiate between the two above options, dont talk about it in the abstract....lets see it. Provide a link to what you think is the best evidence of their actual motive, and lets discuss it.

    Lets get it on!
     
    FAW, Jan 25, 2020
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  8. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think foreign interference in U.S. elections is a big deal. After all, the U.S. routinely interferes in elections in other countries. We do it so why is it unreasonable to expect other nations do it to us?

    the U.S. is the most powerful nation on Earth. Our elections here have massive effects on other nations. Why then would be expect other nations to stand idly by and allow something that impacts them to simply be left to the whims of voters in rural Wisconsin, Pennsylvania or lower Manhattan?
     
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  9. Nemesis

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    Yay! It's not a "big deal" for Bonespurs to use foreign powers to cheat in elections! Hooray Bonespurs!!
     
    Nemesis, Jan 25, 2020
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    Donald Trump violated every norm and colluded directly with the voters. He has to be impeached before he allows the voters to interfere with the 2020 election. He's not even using dog whistles anymore; he's flat out telling them to vote for him. If that's not colluding with the electorate, what is?
     
    bricklayer, Jan 25, 2020
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    His staff sure cheated since so many are in prison or on their way.
     
    Moonglow, Jan 25, 2020
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  12. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    He can't be impeached after he leaves office-duh.
     
    Moonglow, Jan 25, 2020
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  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Allow me to reply in the voice of a Trumper. "None of what you said happened...........and even if it did..........I don't care."

    WHY INTENT, NOT GROSS NEGLIGENCE, IS THE STANDARD IN CLINTON CASE
    https://warontherocks.com/2016/07/why-intent-not-gross-negligence-is-the-standard-in-clinton-case/

    Donald Trump falsely claims Hillary Clinton lied to FBI
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-trump-falsely-claims-hillary-clinton-lied-f/

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13500018/clinton-email-scandal-bullshit
     
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    If you want to go in that direction, then Obama told illegals to go out and vote. Even if Obama didn't personally coordinate it, many of his followers did and the illegals actually did vote. How many voted remains to be seen, but vote they did.
     
    Steve N, Jan 25, 2020
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    What would President Trump promote Russian national interest?

    It isn't like Donald Trump is known for gratitude.
     
    Dayton3, Jan 25, 2020
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Are they "in prison or on their way" due to cheating in the 2016 election?
     
    Dayton3, Jan 25, 2020
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    Yeah we already know about Hillary, but why outsource it from the Russians?
     
    Thehumankind, Jan 25, 2020
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    A part of "America first" approach, decreasing foreign interventionism, allowing Russia doing what it can and reducing the tension between the US and Russia.
     
    Thehumankind, Jan 25, 2020
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    She’s an evil witch. It was by divine providence that we were spared being ruled over by that horrible thing.
     
    XXJefferson#51, Jan 25, 2020
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    like 2020, Trump tried to cheat in 2016 and failed - just cause one tries and fails, doesn't make it ok
     
    FreshAir, Jan 25, 2020
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    He didn't "lay down" ....that's how he cheated!
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 25, 2020
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Elizabeth Warren is looking for her headress....can you explain how you got the one in your avatar?
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 25, 2020
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  23. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Donald Trump won in 2016. Didn't cheat didn't fail. So you have a prophecy of 2020?
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 25, 2020
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    he got less votes, but yes he did win just the same

    but he did try to cheat, Trump tower meeting and asking Russia to hack the dnc... and for 2020 asking Ukraine to help him win.. course failed at that too
     
    FreshAir, Jan 25, 2020
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    Who's Obama?

    And they voted for Trump....

    I mean, if we're just making up conspiracy theories now, we can say anything....
     
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