How did Herman Cain get stage IV cancer?

Truly spoken as someone who has no idea what the qualifying criteria are for medicaid. There is a huge gulf between a a 60 something year old man being able to get private health insurance and qualifying for medicaid.

That's why we have that little problem with the uninsured in America.

 

I was responding to that post.

If someone has no money, they qualify for medicaid.

 

And what if they have a minimum wage job (like in Texas) and a little beater of a car. Then what?

 

I got myne @ ITT tech. Kanser is my spechalty.

 

then Medicaid

 

Yeah and we beat Saddam with 4475 US troop lives and Trillions in crushing debt. Sometimes even when you "win" everybody loses.

I don't know about you but I would rather pay a few hundred dollars, keep my colon, and defeat by cancer with this...



Rather than cost the system tens of thousands of dollars and lose my entire colon by using this...



The obsession with disorganized, inefficient, private health insurance health care is bankrupting this country.

People need to get screened for colon cancer. In 2011 an initial presenting diagnosis of stage IV colon cancer for the average person is unacceptable.

 

I am tired of lies by liberals. You have ZERO evidence Herman Cain has ANY European blood in him much less your moronic post claiming all African Americans have European ancestry which couldn't be more stupid if you tried.

Even the source you cited said only 58% of African Americans have European Ancestry yet you still cling onto your utter failure.

Its amusing but painfully pathetic.

Enjoy your FAIL once again misinformer.


Are you so dishonest you can't admit the gross mistake in your own OP??

 

Anyone know how long a 35 year old would have to wait for a colonoscopy in England, Canada or other single payer type systems?

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazet....html?id=58c85d0e-a051-4f42-aacf-c9d3232eb1e6

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658115/

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0811/breaking27.html

I'm glad I could get in a week. Nothing like having blood in your stool and being told you'll have to wait four weeks to get it looked at.

 

You know what really disgusts me about some of you guys? You have no idea about any of these issues. You have no idea how people are struggling, suffering and dying in this country. You just cavalierly bang your your little "let them it cake" comments and spit of the poor of this country. You call yourselves patriots?



That's right. If you have cancer, a minimum wage job, and a beat up car you use to get to said job you are going to have to get rid of two of these things in order to get rid of one of these things. And in some states you better pray you don't own a home.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Really? I have no idea? I own a small business, I employ about 30 people. I pay for their health insurance. I have not been able to give out raises. Infact myself and a few on my management team actually had to take pay cuts just so we wouldn't have to layoff anyone.

Each week it week to week. Customers are having a hard time paying, I have boiler inspectors, OSHA, Water inspections, taxes, property taxes, local taxes, payroll taxes, bills, more bills, and a host of other things you have no idea about.

And we have Obama wanting to tax me even more.

So you know what, liberals can go straight to hell. Because you have no clue what your talking about. You want to see people hurting, go check how hard it is for small businesses to stay open. From restaurants to farms to manufacturing.

I have a responsibility to my employees to work as hard as I can to help keep them employed. Just today, I wrote out a check to a local fund for a girl who became a paraplegic a few days after graduating college. I did this because I care. I care about everyone...so don't talk to me like you know what the (*)(*)(*)(*) I know or what the hell I do. I have contributed more to this society and nation than you ever have or ever will.

 

Have you ever used Hemoccult? Have you ever had a colonoscopy? I have done both and guess what nothing was detected on my little poop swabs, but when they put the camera up my backside, they found two polyps. One was pre-cancerous.

 

Another passportless American afraid of science class.

If the bleeding is severe enough you will not get an outpatient colonoscopy anywhere. You will be admitted to the ICU for close monitoring and possible blood transfusions.

Please name for me which patient in the history of the world died from cancer due to a three week wait for a colonoscopy? Where do you guys get this stuff?

You think colonoscopies are like ordering coffee? You obviously do not have the science background to evaluate what is most important for health outcomes. A four week wait for a nonemergent colonoscopy is fine.

By the way do you know what causes anal bleeding in a 35 year old? Hemorrhoids. You really want emergent colonoscopies for hemorrhoids? No wonder our system is bankrupt. Its the American I'm not going to bother using my head mentality. I just want what I want when I want it.

By the way they probably saw you in one weeks time, if it was nonemergent, because Herman Cain skipped his screening appointment.

 

Herman Cain beat a 70% fatality rate with private health care.

Deal with it.

 

What's your point. I never said anything about not doing colonosopies. If a Heme test is positive what do you do? Answer: Colonoscopy. If you have a colonoscopy nothing bars your doctor from doing a FOB a couple of years later. They are not mutually exclusive. Where did you get that idea from?

 

Herman Cain blew a hole in our collective wallet because he didn't practice simple cheap preventative care. He has no credibility on health issues.

Deal with it.

 

You know what caused anal bleeding in this 35 year old? The on set of Colon Cancer.

 

So basically, with Obamacare, Werty would have been told to take this hemoccult, would have been negative, and they would have not allowed more testing. He too would have been a victim of cancer under Obamacare.

 

You implied that the screening is the cheaper alternative and is just as good. Guess what it is not. It did not catch mine and if I had not been persistent with my doctor, I would not have gotten a colonoscopy.

 

The majority of anal bleeding in 35 year olds is due to nonmalignent processes such as hemerroids which most certainly are not "the onset of colon cancer."

And in the minority of cases where anal bleeding is due to cancer their prognosis is not changed by waiting three weeks for a colonoscopy. Where do you get this stuff.

 

Very well put. My doctor did not even want to scope me. With no family history and my age, he said that there was almost no risk of me having polyps and instead wanted me to up my fiber intake.

I went home had a movement with blood in it and called his office to demand that I get checked out.

 

You need to familiarize yourself with the colon cancer screening guidelines. There is no Western first world country where that is the screening procedure. I don't care if you have private insurance or are seen in a socialized clinic.

Where do you guys get this stuff?

 

Wow. And all that happened without Obamacare or socialized medicine. Amazing.

 

Tell that to my lab results.

I never said that the prognosis would be changed. I said I did not want to crap blood for three weeks. Do you no how stressful it was to wait one week?

Its called real life experiance, not reading stats out of a book.

 

Um your completely wrong since Werty did have a colonoscopy.

I know of numerous people who have had the same kind of issue, and told their doctor they wanted the test done. Its not a huge long drawn out test. you go usually to a surgicenter, they stick you with an IV, they knock you out, and within 20 mins the test is done and your awake again.

 

Life experience, huh? You really want to go there? Fine. I've worked with colorectal surgeons in Europe in socialized hospitals and with American surgeons in a top academic colorectal surgery program. You've had what two polyps removed? And now you know everything there is to know about colorectal cancer screening in the US and Western Europe. Check yourself.