I wonder if the minimum wage workers at Godfather's Pizza think Cain is "pro-worker"

Cool, that's what I'm doing, but what if someone can't afford school? You right wingas neva considaa this

plus Im stoned

 

Whatever you say American hater.

 

Reading comprehension is you friend, and I said nothing close to that.

Again, reading comprehension, I didnt link those two. And the devaluation of the dollar is not the reason why someone at GM has a $45/hr job to sit in the break room compared to the people at the American Honda plants make $25/hr to work.

No, it was the Unions that forced the management to raise the wage of workers that were making an affordable car. To keep that care affordable without raising the price too much, quality had to be cut since people could be laid off. This is why "Japanese" (made in America) cars took over the lion share of sales.

That means the cars cost more overseas, not here. Foreign companies also don't have Unions in their factories.

No, unions have put many businesses out of work, not just car companies.

People being laid off because of unions bulling to get higher pay raises at the expense of their fellow coworkers has lead to that stake being driven through the heart of unions thus lowering their membership over the years have taken away their power. And their power still means little when it comes to them acting like thugs and babies crying when they don't get their way.

 

Course he isn't pro worker, he might as well have dollar signs for eyes along with all the other politicians and statists.

 

Course he isn't pro worker, he might as well have dollar signs for eyes along with all the other politicians and statists.

 

Stop buying pot and get a job.

 

Grew up poor in Memphis his mother a house cleaner his father a chaffuer, worked his way through college and then the military and up the corporate ladder.

Yeah I think he knows a lot and I and my kids sure appreciated the opportunities he gave them to work when they were in school and my brother who was a manager for several years in two different cities.

What does Obama know?

 

No, I only say that if you do nothing to acquire a marketable skill, you deserve nothing

No human is obligated to risk his personal resources so that you can work.

let them put in the time and effort and we'll find out.

 

It usually takes wealth of some kind to pay for the training to acquire a marketable skill in the first place. That's a major point.

Aha! This is one of my major points-a large factory that someone uses as a tool for being a corporate titan is not their "personal" resource. It's not like a little kid and his "blankie". It's not even like a guy and his corvette. They don't have any attachment whatsoever to said factory other than that it's a tool for being a corporate titan.

Thanks for bringing that up.

 

No it does not, everyone is offered a free education through high school where you can obtain marketable skills. You can also work hard and make good grades and fun yourself a college education.

Herman Cain came from a poor family, look where he got.

 

You'd be surprised, my friend. A +/- 55-year old fella delivered Papa John's pizza to my house Saturday night. Do you suppose he'd be doing that if he had another job? We had another middle-aged fella out to cut down some trees a few weeks ago. He'd been laid off by Raytheon after 23 years. You boys are totally out of touch. But that's alright. They can eat cake, eh?

 

By 2020, the Chinese will have more miles of freeway than we do. Somebody must be buying all those cars. China is doing okay considering where they were 30 years ago. We actually have folks in this country who want to go back 130 years. They need a lightning fast kick in the arse.

 

that dont change the fact that the chinese government is artificially keeping the yuan low and I doubt americans would like a much lower standard of living just so more would go to china.....if china raised the yuan to true market value then the dollar store would become the 10 dollar store!

 

wrong, thats just your lack of knowledge of how economies work.....if chinese got paid a true wage then more would stay there and less would be shipped to the US!

 

Are you kidding me? Both public and private schools do not give you the education nor training you need to have a really high paying job. That's retarded.

Are you purposely being biased or just delusional?

Not if college education is reallyyyy really expensive..

 

They ARE keeping it low, but it doesn't seem to be hurting standard of living all that much.

 

In your opinion... how should wages be established?

How would you determine how much a doctor makes? A brain surgeon? A garbage man? A pizza delivery boy?

What is your method for establishing the pay rate for these people?

 

I don't think he buys it. Prolly steals it from hizz momzz.

 

remember we are talking about 1.5 billion people.....only about 100 million at best are profiting........the other 1.4 billion are not....now if the yuan was allowed to apreciate then it would be closer to 1 billion that can afford a plasma tv or a car...not just 100 million!

 

Why is that rather than a resource-scarcity based approach to economic ideology, so many people (usually "right wingers" and the like) have a "inflation/deflation" based approach to economic ideology?

If hundreds of millions of more people suddenly bought cars and plasma T.V.s, that would make the cost of the resources necessary to produce them, skyrocket. That might have an overall negative effect on the global economy.

 

Of course they do, if you do your part and work hard and smart. Any public school in this country can give you the skills/education you need to succeed. Maybe not directly, but they can give you enough to get to the next step if you want it enough.

 

I wanna be an engineer. So do many thousands of other people currently, in this nation.

It's very impossible to develop the knowledge and skills you need to become one with a mere highschool education.

You can't get around the fact that: highschools do not teach you much of jack (*)(*)(*)(*), other than useless trivia and some basic math concepts.

 

maybe they should just dig a hole, crawl in and die if they are as helpless as your condescension makes them out to be.

Yes I remember waking up one morning and having a factory plopped in my lap so that I could carry out my ambition of being a corporate titan. the great part is that I had to risk none of my own resources.

 

This.

Montoya has plenty of free time to study up on it, too, since he is unemployed and not willing to take a job that doesn't pay him a lot. He chooses to spend his time on this board trying to pass off his ignorance as the truth.

If you want to continue paying only $5 for a large pizza, you can't expect the workers to be making $15 an hour plus benefits to make it. In addition to this labor cost, you have the ever-rising cost of materials (in this case, the ingredients to make pizzas), and the ever-increasing cost of the overhead (rent on the building, electricity costs, building maintenance, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc). All of these, plus a slim margin of desired profit, gets baked into the cost of that pizza. If you want the cost of labor to be more, you better be willing to pay more for it.

There Montoya, there's a very basic introduction to economics.

Of course, liberals aren't willing to pay more for it. They want lots of money for doing nothing, and they want everything to be as close to free as possible.

 

No are you ignorant of the fact everyone in this country is offered a free public education through grade 12 and even if you don't finish that free GED.

The statement was "marketable skill"

That you attempted to move the goal post, yes that was retarded using your phraseology

Do you want to discuss the issue, and what I actually stated or just trade insults? You can play in your sandbox by yourself if the latter.

How do you think Herman Cain went to college? Ever hear of scholarships, grants, pell grants, loans, etc etc etc?