I wonder if the minimum wage workers at Godfather's Pizza think Cain is "pro-worker"

Well during the New Deal things like that were done, and do you know? Yeah, the gap between the upper and lower classes was decreased.

 

You are wrong they are buying American products in China

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/03/09/harley-davidson-gets-hog-sales-rolling-in-china/

http://media.gm.com/content/media/c...M.html/content/Pages/news/cn/en/2011/Aug/0805

 

So a few priviledged have money so what? Still does not strengthen your ridiculous claim about American workers.

Let me ask you this. Do you support directly competing with Chinese and Indian labor?

 

another funny post.I know people that have worked at Godfathers making $12 an hour plus tips.(way above minimum wage)

 

What great content from a union supporter who hates workers.

 

Whether you support it or not is irrelevant, it's one of those things that you can't stop.

That's like saying "Do you directly support the Industrial Revolution?"

That's what globalization is, the second industrial revolution.

 

The "living wage" comes from what it cost for goods in the area. You start raising the employees pay, the price for the goods goes up, thus increasing the "living wage" for the area. The unskilled worker will never have the "living wage" for not going to college, not getting a trade skill, usually not finishing high school. The only way to counter the raise in employee pay without raising the cost of goods would to be to fire the percentage of staff equal or greater to the amount of the raise.

It is so nice that the left shows how it doesn't understand how the real world works.

 

but our minimum wage workers sure can

 

I disagree with your premise, but agree with your conclusion.

There aren't many people in the world who have done more damage to the working classes than Chairmen of the Federal Reserve Banks.

Printing money is evil.

 

Well, the trouble is that we have too much labor especially in low skill areas. It's always seemed weird that we have so many workers, yet our infrastructure is falling apart. I don't know if you've looked at our roads and bridges lately, but wow, pretty bad. So it seems like we aren't investing in the right things. Educate some of these people in road fixing and other such things and kill two birds with one stone.

The labor glut is what holds down the wages -- laborers are common, and if one wants a raise you can replace him with another at a lower rate. If we had some sort of labor sink to take care of the excess labor in the market, the wage problems would take care of themselves.

 

To be perfectly honest, I don't think people should necessarily be expected to all have jobs, if not enough jobs even exist to go around due to low demand for human labor. That's not really just IMHO.

 

What a ridiculous complaint to hand at Cain.

What are we supposed to do? Start a Pizza Makers union, and pay them 75.00 an hour to spin dough, then pass that cost to the consumers? We'd price Pizza right out of the market.


Sorry, making a Pizza, or flipping a burger is a non skilled position usually meant for and filled by college kids..teens...second jobbers and the like.

Unless you are running the restaurant, dont expect 6 figures.

 

Then wouldn't be bad a pizza makers union, like in every job. The unions should cover every job. And the unions should be class unions.

 

Right, thats what is good for the consumers, a union to raise the pay of the workers, which would in turn either raise the price of the pizza, or lower the quality, or make there be less workers. Glad that the unions aren't there, would mean another successful American business would go bankrupt just like GM and Chysler.

 

First, only the people who choose to not be prepared for the future are forced into minimum wage jobs. We have a system of free education that, if utilized, will allow someone to graduate with a better job. (unfortunately, too often it is not utilized or even rejected outright).

Second, the argument is that if a business is forced to pay a "living wage," they will only hire workers who are worth the "living wage." If someone isn't worth $7.25 an hour in added productivity, they aren't going to keep a job. If the "living wage" is $20 an hour, it's that much worse. If they aren't worth $20 an hour in productivity, they aren't going to keep a job. It's not punishment for the rich. A living wage is punishment to the unskilled.

 

And Taco Bell's quality has deteriorated in the 30 yrs I've been eating it.

 

That's not my claim. My claim is that a business will hire 4 skilled people at $10 an hour than the 5 less skilled people at $8 an hour. The only people hurt by increased minimum wage are those with the least skills/ability.

 

If you can't even afford to go to college...what's your point?

I agree somewhat..but they'd probably still pay people $2.00 an hour and still require them to do the same productivity as they do today. It's called "owning a lot of capital and being able to take advantage of others because of it". It's a pitfall of capitalism IMHO.

 

The pay of workers will always be am ideological battle, that unskilled workers will always lose. Skilled workers have something to bring to the table, but globalism will strip them of a living wage eventually as well.

The question I have is this. Where in the hell are there even Godfather pizza's left? I remember them appearing and disappearing just as fast. I could see a Dominoes, Little Caesar, or Pizza Hut person claiming success, but Godfathers? Herman Cain is simply the new token black guy to replace Michael Steel. I like Allen West, but after he started talking the truth about new world order he disappeared from the MSM's spotlight, much like they would do to Ron Paul over the FED but can't because of popularity.

 

Who said anything about college? I'm talking about a basic vocational education. Also, the very poor can get college paid for.

Employers pay the least amount they have to pay qualified (for the particular job) workers to work for them. It's a combination between availability of workers, keeping the workers satisfied with pay, and the amount of productivity. Before the recession, some local fast food places (in a tourist area) were offering $10 an hour, including paying commute time. The minimum wage at that time was $6.25 an hour. Why the difference? They couldn't keep employees at $6.25 an hour. They pay what the workers are worth to them.

 

Herman Cain left Godfathers in 1996, which was close to their peak. In the 1990s it was hopping.

 

Still though, even at "their peak", they were what? 3rd tier? If Ross Perot couldn't get elected strictly on business, the Herman Cains and Donald Trumps don't stand a chance. At this point, only someone who can truly do something different will get people motivated about politics again. The people MSM supports from either party simply wont do. Whether you are talking ultra pro-business globalists, or ultra pro-market socialist globalists. They are still globalists, and globalism is the root of the problem. People want jobs, not entitlements, so dems are out. Reps know business, but their solution is for the American worker to be brought down to a Chinese level in the name of "global competition". I predict the lowest voter turnout in the history of America. Surely war on the home front is coming. Whether it takes 5 years or 20.

 

If entry level = living wage, the incentive for many to expand their horizons through education or pursue any path over and above least resistance diminishes....along with the GDP, and global competitiveness.

Guaranteeing more mindless, complacent, apathetic drones who will present little opposition to the spread of Globalist/Marxist agenda.

"Bloodless Revolution"

 

All that was true in old America, web. And very true. However, pushing the mantra "competing with developing nations" means America going backwards, and you're supporting that. Fact of the matter is, America is supposed to be about working and reaping the rewards of your labor. Not everyone is meant for higher education, and to say that they are is to support a scam. It is a very serious, and complicated position we are in. The devaluing of labor, which is basically the devaluation of the dollar, has put a road block in the path of success, to guarantee profits and station for the top, that was never supposed to exist under capitalism. Capitalism is not the lowest worker making 7 an hour while the average price of a home is well over 100k. Ridiculous. Between central bankers and global conglomerates, our nation, and its people, are under economic siege. We don't need minimum wage to be raised, we need revolution, and we needed it yesterday.

 

That $3.25/hour bought TWICE as much essential stuff as our minimum wage does now.

Even a quarter was REAL money!

Even little toddlers are ignoring quarters, and want to see GREEN money!