If Trump is not removed through Impeachment, will we lose in 2020?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. I think illegal propaganda covered up by a President abusing his powers is new to our political system.
     
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    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Illegal speech? Please, do tell.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    What the hell is illegal propaganda?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't "make up" anything. Read my sig.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I do too. The total effect of the election of 2016 was to suppress the vote. By the data, Trump didn’t do any better than Mitt Romney had done. It was just that many independents and Democrats didn’t vote, or voted for the Greens or Libertarians. Hillary lost the presidency.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You made 2 wrong points. Given both are wrong, the conclusion clearly is wrong.
     
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    What is this "illegal propoganda" to which @Golem refers? Now I'm super-curious.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you pay particular attention to the politics of Australia?

    And your premise is wrong. Americans see for themselves what the Democrats are doing. They did not even hide it. They commenced in some cases after he got elected, some the day he was sworn in and then massive outbursts took place the day after he was sworn into office. This has been a constant effort and by the rather treasonous Democrats of Congress.
     
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    Hardly Golem! But if you think Trump is the first to introduce this sort of thing in to our political system or drastically expanding social media/advancement, feel free, and enjoy the view and running in the backfield my friend ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have zero Democrats who could even beat Hillary and she lost as you admit.
     
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    Illegal propaganda. I think that's going to be my next album title.
     
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    Well, it will certainly be an Oldie but goodie for some and new age techno for others lolol :)
     
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    I'm still waiting to hear @Golem explain what illegal propaganda actually is
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you considered Trump's plan to extort the President of Ukraine a "funny meme"
     
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    Taking a stab at it, and not speaking for him.. But I might imagine it might be something that doesn't align with a particular way of thinking or something that manages to sway the minds of the opponent or Allie?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course!

    Haven't you been following what's been happening in the last 3 years?

    Sorry dude, but I don't have either the time or the will to bring you up to date. You'll have to do that on your own
     
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    This has been an attempt at a political coup to overturn the will of the American people as determined by the Constitution. The opposition is determined to destroy Trump by any means. Our very system of government is in danger and not by our current president but by his opposition. This does cast a dark shadow over our supposed public servants and justice system.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's whatever the poster I responded to calls "propaganda" but done illegally.
     
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    So freedom of speech was eliminated in the last 3 years? I was unaware of any such amendment.
     
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    How is it illegal? You post propaganda all the time
     
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    Trump was doing his Constitutional duty of unveiling corruption
     
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    Oh so now you think political extortion is also something new to Governments since Trump?

    Extortion
    So all these countries we give aid to, prop up with lethal weaponry, military assistance is all BEEN done, for decades, was all just "Goodness of the heart"? We never bought loyalty, exclusive rights to materials/oil/minerals, property/strategic/offshore/ and so on.. Everything comes at a cost Golem, everything!
     
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    Is that even really possible?
     
  24. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I can tell you one thing for sure: he's the first one who got caught. Sorry... Maybe next time you can find an intelligent cheater for a change, who doesn't allow him/herself to get caught so easily.
     
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    Well. at least you are being realistic now :thumbsup:
     

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