Iran’s Rouhani warns of greater hardship than war years of 1980s

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by alexa, May 12, 2019.

  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Iran warns that the US's cruel, inhumane and illegal treatment of them is moving towards the destructiveness of 80's when the US was trying to destroy the country supporting the Iraq war against them.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-of-greater-hardship-than-war-years-of-1980s

    We know that the United States was responsible for the death of over 500,000 children by its sanctions of Iraq. We know the United States is already responsible for the death of over 40,000 civilians in Venezuela by its sanctions since 2017. It's sanctions towards Iran are the hardest ever and must be causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. It added to its inhumanity by stopping anyone giving Iran help with the recent disastrous floods they have been experiencing.

    Iran are the innocent facing this attempt to end the country of Iran and destroy her people - it was the US not Iran who fell short of International Treaties.

    A couple of days ago for the first time I heard an American in some international position stating her fear that the World would be looking for some way to stop the dollar being the worlds reserve currency to stop its inhumanity and mass murder. I have heard other Americans saying of both the US's actions in Venezuela and in Iran and its continued denial of International law that they are embarrassed to say they are American.

    What way can you think of to free the world of a tyrant country which is committing mass murder by stealth and has given up living by the rule of law?
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2019
    ibobbrob and Thingamabob like this.
  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As far as I know there is no US law they have broken.
     
  3. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    International laws are what we are talking about when we are talking about breaking laws on the International scene.
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  4. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Which laws?
     
  5. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    You are the one complaining. You say which laws you believe they had the right to break.
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  6. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Which laws?
     
  7. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Learn the basics before wasting time.
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  8. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Last edited: May 12, 2019
    Thingamabob likes this.
  9. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You said what they're doing is illegal, I've asked you to demonstrate how, and you say to get informed, which is what I'm trying to do.
     
  10. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I had not intended to waste time, just to establish the facts.
     
  11. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    19,096
    Likes Received:
    1,827
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So I'm also curious. Which laws has the US broken?
     
    Steady Pie likes this.
  12. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Please name the laws that were broken by the US in regards to Iran.
     
  13. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Messages:
    10,291
    Likes Received:
    13,163
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm supposed to have sympathy for Iran? Iran?

    Pfft, yeah right.

    Iran can get rekt.
     
  14. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The US made a coup against Iran. The US aided a WMD war against Iran.
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  15. EarthSky

    EarthSky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2018
    Messages:
    2,148
    Likes Received:
    1,139
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    US unilaterally reneged on a internationally negotiated agreement with Iran.

    As a member of the security council to be in violation of resolution 2231 is a very serious breach of international legal framework.

    Imposition of sanctions not just on Iran but on nations that trade with Iran is in direct violation of 2231.
     
    ibobbrob and Thingamabob like this.
  16. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You're mistaken in your belief that if USA and Israel cease to exist, the world will become one big happy family holding hands and singing Kumbaya. Iran will still be a shithole place and Palestinian goats will still be making short work of whatever olive trees they manage to cultivate in their dry, arid, unirrigated corner of the world. The world will be much poorer economically, socially and scientifically.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2019
    ibobbrob and roorooroo like this.
  17. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's what I asked without response.
     
  18. JessCurious

    JessCurious Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2019
    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Iran's reckless and dangerous pursuit of nuclear weapons is soley responsible for any sanctions she suffers from. The US has a moral responsibility to try to stop this tyrantical and fantical hate-
    filled nation from getting weapons with which it can bully and intimidate its neighbors. I doubt that Alexa's claims about US caused deaths in Venezuela or Iraq can be confirmed by Independent,
    OBJECTIVE sources.
     
  19. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    46,809
    Likes Received:
    26,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The United States of America never entered any agreement with Iran.
     
  20. Homer J Thompson

    Homer J Thompson Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    1,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The 1980's were great years.... I think, it's all a blurr really.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  21. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Arundhati Roy 'the US is by its own definition, a Rogue State'



    I would have to add “ wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as others see us”
     
  22. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Iran kept the deal. The UN was in on the deal as was the UK, France and Germany as was China and Russia and the United States. When the deal was signed the US knew it was a treaty. Iran kept the deal. You did not.. Like people are saying. You are a rogue state.

    Madeline Allbright had no problems with killing 500,000 children. She believed it was worth it. This is common knowledge. The over 40,000 Venezuelan men women and children was by research from the US. The link is in the thread on that. All very well to think you are so good when you shut your eyes to all the atrocities you commit and by so doing will continue and worse and worse - though it is getting a bit hard for you to do worse
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  23. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,720
    Likes Received:
    11,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why do sanctions create death? Why can't a country take care of its own people?

    I am pretty sure if some hypothetical superpower had imposed an embargo on the US in 1900, most consumers in the US at that time would have hardly noticed.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  24. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    The most recent action that I know of where the US is showing itself not to be part of the world community and a rogue state is it's actions re the Venezuelan Embassy...but basically now it is one a minute.
     
  25. Badaboom

    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,754
    Likes Received:
    3,162
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The United State didn't ratify the deal, Obama did on its own which he wasn't entitled to. That's the job of congress.
    No country is forced to trade with another. If the Iraqi and Iranians wanted trade with the US and its allies, they have to behave.
     
    Blinda Vaganto likes this.

Share This Page