Iran called Trump's bluff

First off, the OP should get their information straight...

The Iran deal did not, on any level, permenantly bar Iran from making nuclear weapons. That was never at any time even on the table.

It bars them from having Uranium enriched above a certain point for 10 years (the cap that the deal set is well below the level needed for weapons) and it made them shut down all but a couple enrichment sites.

 

He'll most likely do the same thing he did with Kim, have a meeting, where he gets a bunch of empty promises, and then proclaim that there is no danger from Iran, while ignoring them still trying to make weapons. North Korea has a nuke test literlly moths after Trump proclaimed that they were going to give up all nuclear capability.

 

The last nuclear test was conducted before the first Trump/Kim meeting.

 

lol sure it did....

 

Trump and his team are wrong in ratcheting up the situation. but no it is not a mistake that is easily made when a target is twice as far away. 20 miles and 12 miles is huge. Iran made a mistake in shooting down the drone, it should be apologized for. We have the right to spy on other countries as they spy on us. Russian, Chinese, French, British and German satellites spy on us constantly. Hell, Obama 'wiretapped" Merkel for god's sake.

Trump to my mind is allowing Iran to accept fault gracefully by the "mistake" remark.

 

Ah, the nuclear deal that did not allow Iran to ever produce a nuclear weapon. What naivete. A deal that allowed Iran to produce nuclear fuel and allowed the EU to trade with Iran while looking like it is actually accomplishing something.

 

As long as wars are fought on the enemies own turf, it's a walk in the park. We just need to stop trying to fight around borders and decimate their cities like we did in the world wars..

 

Nah...Waste of money, time and human lives.There is nothing in it for the vast majority of Americans or Brits.Just look at Afghanistan and Iraq.You call it a victory?

 

No. I call that an example of a conflict with borders

 

You couldn"t be more wrong.All you need to do is to check the stats and see how many US sodiers committed suicide as a result of those wars.Not to mention endemic mental health issues.Sooner or later the war comes home.

 

So, what? We just ignore that Iran was, all along, producing enriched Uranium, and stockpiling it even after Obozo and John Kerry promised us and the rest of the world they wouldn't? At what point do you find it acceptable for a regime who is so actively fomenting terror around the planet to then become a nuclear threat to the rest of the world? When you suggest that you're interested in the whole story, that seems intentionally left of of your narrative here. Why? If tensions are high, likely the cause is the realization that what Obozo shackled the world to was a nuclear aggressive nation like Iran. And now that the facts are out there, Iran doesn't like being reviewed and rebuked for their aggression. A spy drone in international waters being shot down is an act of war, one committed by the Iranians, not the commander of the US forces there. Having a spy drone up to monitor seems both entirely appropriate unless you think that being blind to future Iranian military attacks on US forces is, in your view, the right thing to do..... I find it super difficult to reconcile your position here as one that protects the US interest or those of our allies in the region.

 

ummm..... what "stealth mode" on this type of drone? I doubt anyone in the military is unaware of the serious anti air capabilities that the Iranians have purchased from the Russians and Chinese here. To suggest what you have is uninformed at best and parrots others on the left who have also made these ridiculous assertions.

 

Sometimes its hard to put the hot pocket down long enough while playing your video game to understand that the video game and real life aren't the same thing. Likely though, this is a translator problem which is, in my mind, a much more disturbing revelation...

 

The drone was in the Iranian airspace.Wait for the wreckage to turn up.Whoever operated the drone was overly confident.They flew at high altitude yet Iranians got them.To be more precise,Chinese and Russian technolgy.

 

A reversal of your initial assertion... So now, arrogant kids in the middle of Arizona or Nevada couldn't read the map and flew across a boundary that their superior officers could also see, so, what? It's a conspiracy? That seems unlikely...

 

Trump supporters will support Trump no matter what he does, he could use nukes and they woudl support him

 

Well in MY case, your reply is off topic. I'm addressing war without borders, although what you are presenting here is just another byproduct of trying to control/win a conflict and not harming the mud huts six inch's on either side of a target..

 

and democrats will call him a traitor no matter what he does......

 

That's because that's what he is. Not only did that ******** knowingly accept help from Russia in the 2016 election, but he just said that he'd accept foreign help again!

Read the Mueller Report.

Mueller found 140+ contacts between the Russians and Bonespurs' campaign, that both the Russians and Bonespurs' morons expected to benefit from each other with the Russian interference, that Bonespurs invited it and:

"But the evidence does indicate that a thorough FBI investigation would uncover facts about the campaign and the President personally that the President could have understood to be crimes or that would give rise to personal and political concerns. Although the President publicly stated during and after the election that he had no connection to Russia, the Trump Organization, through Michael Cohen, was pursuing the proposed Trump Tower Moscow project through June 2016 and candidate Trump was repeatedly briefed on the progress of those efforts. In addition, some witnesses said that Trump was aware that (Harm to ongoing matter) at a time when public reports stated that Russian intelligence officials were behind the hacks, and that Trump privately sought information about future WikiLeaks releases.499 More broadly, multiple witnesses described the President's preoccupation with press coverage of the Russia investigation and his persistent concern that it raised questions about the legitimacy of his election.

Finally, the President and White House aides initially advanced a pretextual reason to the press and the public for Corney's termination. (i.e. they're ****ing liars)In the immediate aftermath of the firing, the President dictated a press statement suggesting that he had acted based on the DOJ recommendations, and White House press officials repeated that story. But the President had decided to fire Corney before the White House solicited those recommendations. Although the President ultimately acknowledged that he was going to fire Corney regardless of the Department of Justice's recommendations, he did so only after DOJ officials made clear to him that they would resist the White House's suggestion that they had prompted the process that led to Corney's termination. The initial reliance on a pretextual justification could support an inference that the President had concerns about providing the real reason for the firing, although the evidence does not resolve whether those concerns were personal, political, or both."

VOLUME II, PAGES 76-77.

It sure looks like Mueller thinks that a more thorough investigation into the conspiracy issue is warranted.

 

Of couse he was watching CNN MSNBC NBC CBS and ABC all spewing lies to the American people.

The president had the right to fire anyone, even comey for any reason or no reason at all.

Even democrats wanted comey fired.

This is a freakn joke

 

Dang, lefties here appear to be upset that there is still no war with Iran.

 

most dems I have talked to hope he does not start another war, most are upset he created this mess by braking America's word on the deal

 

lol Then obama should have made it a treaty. Only then would you be correct in claiming Trump broke Americas word.

Besides Iran still got 150 billion dollars, much of it in plane loads of cash, delivered in the middle of the night.

 

Of course they are.

Theyre mad he didnt kill people.

Theyve been telling everyone trump is a mad man

Theyve been telling everyone is a racist.

I think theyve started believing their own bullshit

 

that was Iran's own money, a refund for the arms they bought from us, but we never delivered

America still gave our word with our allies and Trump broke it.. Sad!