Is Freedom of Speech more important that human life

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  1. JamesVanArtevelde

    JamesVanArtevelde New Member

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    Indeed many of them do.

    So I guess Leffe feels that all open gays should be thrown off the internet for fear of provoking Muslim extremists.
     
  2. Leffe

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    Two lesbian teens were shot in a US park only this year, one dead the other critical when it hit the news.
     
  3. JamesVanArtevelde

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    Yes, and this crime is being investigated. In muslim countries, however, gays are being executed by the government.
     
  4. DivineComedy

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    Freedom of Speech is more important precisely because of the threats to freedom that is posed by the Black Stone Idolaters and their Satanic Verses.

    Quislings retreat at a threat and pay tribute, and reject when free men denigrate the religious beliefs of Satanic Prophets.

    It is no surprise whatsoever, that when push comes to shove, it is the quisling "liberals" who deplore and reject any and all intentional efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of Satan and the Anti-Christ...

    "Liberals" are a bigger threat to peace than any "keep up the perfect prayer or die" Black Stone Idolater.
     
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    DivineComedy Well-Known Member

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    The Old Testament...
     
  6. stekim

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    Pretty much. Some crazy folks here may indeed want gays dead. But it remains against the law.
     
  7. JamesVanArtevelde

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    Well, I guess leffe feels all those gays should get back in the closet so they don't provoke any violence.
     
  8. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Soooo who is it that is trying to stop them from talking? or have you slithered away from that pile of BS to move onto another.
     
  9. dixon76710

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    Any law you like. Did you have a point?
     
  10. Leffe

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    The clue is in the question:

    Originally Posted by Leffe
    The law of who's country? Your constitution extends only to your territory, yet you seem to want to have the right to free speech around the globe.
     
  11. JamesVanArtevelde

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    Leffe seems to believe the internet should be shut down.
     
  12. dixon76710

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    ???? No, the Egyptian Copt is here in the US and you want Egyptian law applied against him.
     
  13. Leffe

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    As soon as it's released on the WWW, it's outside the control of the US. Lets not pretend that the producer wanted anything other than to insult, offend and cause trouble - very christian indeed.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have a good point. However I don't think your point will work if at the same time, we coddle the Muslim extremists as we do. And the word 'we' includes the 99% of peaceful Muslims who won't be loudly vocal and act against the extremists.

    If you don't agree we coddle them, please don't ask me how we coddle them.

    It's one of those "If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer" things. :)
     
  15. algranny

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    Freedom of speech is our 1st amendment right for a purpose. The people should have the freedom to say whatever they want. Free speech has cost many priceless treasures in the loss of our men and women in the military. Should that right be taken from the people, what would come next, freedom of religion? Surely that is the ultimate goal of radical islamists!
     
  16. dixon76710

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    Aaaaaand you want Egyptian law to be applied to the Copt in America while disregarding American laws.
     
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    How do you know what another persons reaction will be? Especially when it is a different culture of which we little real knowledge. With out freedom of speech this forum does not exist but we are dealing, for the most part, will logical reasoning people. The radicals in all cultures are without logic or reason but they do understand retaliation, hard and fast and we are not doing that.
     
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    I think they expect us to presume that muslims lash out with violence when they are offended, therefore anyone who offends muslims is by default inciting violence.
     
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    Speech doesn't kill people. That movie didn't kill anyone. Individual people did the killing. Those individuals are the only ones responsible for the deaths. No one else. Freedom of speech is a natural right that should never be infringed.
     
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    Should lesbianism be banned as a result?
     
  21. Hoosier8

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    What you are saying is that you should give up your right to free speech because someone else does not respect it and they will violate your rights because of it. Really?
     
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    My opinion is that freedom of speech and the film had little to do with the attacks. EVERYONE hates America for playing world police. We are trying to force everyone to think like us and people don't like to get told how to think. In my opinion, this attack has been waiting to happen for a long time now. Here is why http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Dc6HuRO5o
     
  23. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Then why is it only Muslims who express their hatred with such violence? Where are the German, Italian, Japanese, Phillipino, Korean and Vietmaneze terrorist against America? Let alone the rest of the world.
     
  24. Ronald0

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    Correct me if I am wrong. If I were to slander someone on the press or make a movie about them based on lies, could not that person sue me? Is that not also limiting your freedom of speech?
     
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    I think some Muslims are getting upset with the USA killing Muslims in 2 10+ year wars, why are we still there? I think the fanatics are trying to take advantage of that to cause unrest
     

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