Divine is a title or label to designated a certain mind set by an observer. It can only be assigned from another as one cannot just declare themselves divine. We are all sons of gods. Jesus askes us to elect the best and shows how to look. That works for everyone if we see God as the best rules and laws to live by. Moses did. Not surprising the traditional thinking is discernable in the N T Jesus. Regards DL
I am somewhat warm to the opinion "We are sons of Gods" - don't like you definition of "divine" - I would say the ability to - manifest the will into physical reality - externally (note we all have this ability internally to some degree) constitutes divine power ... and the better you are at it .. the higher your god-like powers - should such things exist. Agree that Jesus gave rules to live buy .. specially the main one you mentioned which underlires everything "Sums up the Prophets and the Law" -- be also hear this rule highlighted through the ages .. Hamurrapi - Buddha - Confucius -- even Muhammad .. so perhaps the Universe is trying to tell us something. Moses ? -- tough to say much about that guy .. as his work was so redacted by the time we got a copy .. who knows what he wrote ... but what matter as the Israelites did not follow it .. My latest theory .. "Sons of God" and all that .. is that we are all born of the Sun .. Sun Gods of a sort in that respect .. The Sun being the main God. Achievements of my God .. Separated light from dark - creator - bringer of life - but aye .. that is not the only active force --- Dark Matter - Dark Energy .. the rest of the Universe .. all have a role .. but, this is the most active God that watches over us .. well least during the day .. which is why good things happen in the dark - when the Ghost in the Machine does its work
Well,the dummies certainly did buy the fairy tale without a second thought. I was thinking about the Eight Commandment = Exodus 34:25 (NKJV) = “You shall not offer the blood of My sacrifice with leaven, nor shall the sacrifice of the Feast of the Passover be left until morning. “
Why do people constantly whine about the Nazis but ignore the genocides conducted by the American army against the indigenous people in America? Is it because the Nazis focused on killing White people instead of people of color like the Americans, Spanish, French, Belgians, Portuguese, Italians, Japanese and British did?
Stoning people to death for working on the sabbath is the best rule and law to live by? Numbers 15:32-36 (TLB) = "32 One day while the people of Israel were in the wilderness, one of them was caught gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 He was arrested and taken before Moses and Aaron and the other judges.[a]34 They jailed him until they could find out the Lord’s mind concerning him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die—all the people shall stone him to death outside the camp.” 36 So they took him outside the camp and killed him as the Lord had commanded."
All you have are incredibly stupid insults. But it comes as no surprise. I merely consider the source...
I have begun pushing the notion that the Earth is the only thing we should venerate as it creates and sustains us. The sun, of course, is also required, but given we are driving ourselves extinct by ignoring what we do to our eco system. Holy is defined as --- "dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred." That does not say anything of power buddy, although what is consecrated by a religion is usually given power or authority by the believers. Regards DL
American Army? I have seen stats that have the Spanish e6t5c, from the West causing the death of 95% of the total indigenous population. Some, if not most indigenes, died from diseases that they were not immune to. We speak of the S. S. more because few care about earlier genocides. Regards DL
No. I do not think I indicated that. I prefer what Jesus really taught on working on the Sabbath. He said the decision was ours by saying that the Sabbath was made for man and not man made for the Sabbath. Much of the bible has Jesus saying immoral garbage, but his view on the Sabbath I respect, as he gives us power over it. Regards DL
The Sun is what both creates and sustains us .. more so than the Earth - but this is a bit of a hair splitting exercise Must have misread the other part.
Let's split this hair. I agree that our whole environment depends on many factors and it all begins with photons or other sub-atomic particles. The reason I chose the Earth to try to get people to venerates is so we start protecting her. The sun, we cannot protect but is something we need protecting from and the Earth and it's magnetic shield is what does that. You honor a killer sun, while I honor an Earth and it's magnetic protection from your killer sun. I honor what saves, you honor what kills, after giving us life, of course. I am going to have to think about this buddy. Regards DL
If we are going to make one of the two a God .. doing so on the basis of respective powers - my vote is for the sun. It powers the plants. .. animals .. everything living. Obviously both are required .. so perhaps we relegate the Earth to lesser God status ? Or .. one can be the Father .. the other the Mother .. the moon then the Trinity .. don't forget Dianna's has a part to play. How does that sound .... a Celestial Trinity ...
The Egyptians beat us to that punch buddy. As a naturalist, I think we are all born to be the fittest in both body and spirit, and our spirit is what should be honored the most. Enjoyed this. Regards DL
Is that the same guy who said that the Jews had to obey the commandments? Why did he hate the 5th Commandment so much?
I guess he knew that a lot of parents were abusing their children and did not deserve honor. Not that long ago, even in the West, stats showed 40% of men abuse their female children and step children. Things are not that bad today but still in the too high numbers. We men can and are often, a holes. Especially with the sins of bed and bottle. Regards DL
I thought for sure that you would know what the real Ten Commandments are by now. The real Fifth Commandment is found in Exodus 34:21, which is to work for 6 days but take the 7th day off (observe the sabbath). Moses killed a guy who violated that rule. He would have fried the Jesus character for violating it.
Forgive my ignorance. There are 3 sets of commandments in the bible and they are all different. The point is that Jesus pointed out the truth, in that religions and Sabbaths are made for us, and not us for them. We are to choose when to rest. Not some man made law. Regards DL
yep, I know other parts of the bible give Jesus other last words, but this shows he was not God Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
Well, it sure didn't take long for the God character to change his mind and toss the 5th Commandment into the garbage can. Now if he would only toss all of the others.
He kind of did by putting his Big Two. Love yourself and love god. One and the same to a Gnostic Christian, by instinct. Learning why you should love yourself is found through Gnosis. Learning how to interpret a way to love the genocidal gods is a lot harder. Christians can somehow do it but they will not tell me how as they are not good apologists. It is easy to have a Jesus mind; a lot harder to have a Christ consciousness. I strive for Jesus minded, as the left sees him, and am a Christ WIP. Regards DL
hmm, your hatred of the Jews is becoming more and more clear. fun fact: if the Romans did not occupy Judea, Jesus would have never been executed.
Maybe you want to read what I said more carefully since you went off on ampther strawman tangent 'again'.