Margaret Sanger

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by churchmouse, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. phil white

    phil white Member Past Donor

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    Didn't locate the thread. You apparently are prolific.
    Your avatar looked "smashed" so I was wondering if the "junkie" part of your handle referred to snorting coke or something.
    I like humor to as a political tool. I use it when I get an inspiration.
     
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    OKgrannie said,

    It is not. its called standing up and taking responsibility and not involving the government at all. Those on the opposite side…want the government to even provide birth control and abortion…for all women.


    Well I am not a socialist and believe in free choice which is opposite with your worldview. I just don't think that killing should be included an option for free choice. You do. The hypocrisy is the LEFT. You oppose vouchers, gun control…your want the government to force people to purchase the presidents health care package..or else…FORCED SOCIALISM. No freedom in the Democratic Party. Why the hypocrisy of the Hollywood elites and Media is nauseating. They are for redistributing the wealth…but they don't include themselves in the mix. They travel around in private jets….own multiple homes around the world…etc…and they want us to conserve energy. Its ok when Left wing radical talk show hosts and politicians slam Christian conservative women and call them names…but cry, whine holy hell when the same is done to them. Egotistical…narcissistic party……The Party for the little people…..LMAO you have to be kidding. They have so duped minority people in America into thinking they are on their side…that it isn't funny.

    IF YOU ARE PRO-CHOICE YOU DO NOT WANT PROTECTION FOR THE UNBORN IN THE WOMB. YOU ARE PRO-DEATH….OWN UP TO IT….
     
  5. Junkieturtle

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    Explain this to me. How is "not involving the government at all" compatible with you wanting the government to make it illegal?
     
  6. churchmouse

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    The government has an obligation to follow the Constitution and they are not doing this. Life, Liberty and the POH, remember. They should not force anyone to pay for anyones birth control and that includes abortion.

    It should be illegal for all the obvious reasons.
     
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    Paying for birth control and abortions is another debate. Again though, if the birth control has been prescribed by a doctor to treat something or for purposes other than contraception, and if the abortion is necessary for health reasons, the government insurance should pay for it like it would pay for other medically necessary procedures. If it were up to me, in an effort to compromise(key word is compromise), I'd be willing to say that abortions not necessary for the mother's health could be thought of as "elective" and not covered.

    When it comes to religious groups having to cover contraception on their insurance, I don't think religious beliefs should ever trump a person's doctor and the medicines they've prescribed.
     
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    Any woman could make excuses…gee I have a zit…need birth control. Abortion kills a living human being. No taxpayer should foot the bill for that.
    For me there is no comprise with you…you are for abortion throughout the entire nine months.
     
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    Even though I've specifically stated multiple times I'd support a limitation?
     
  10. phil white

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    "Personally I'm opposed to killing abortionist, but I wouldn't want my moral code forced on anyone else."

    (I didn't originate this quote, but it nails it.)
     
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    I guess it's a good thing for the abortion doctors that it's against the law to kill them, huh?
     
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    Since you are so good at citing statistics Junkie…could you tell me how many abortionists have been killed the past thirty years….? last year?

    Millions of abortions happening all over the world…and in this country….at millions of clinics….and how many have been killed?
     
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    I don't think it's been very many at all. I haven't had coffee yet, and a quick search netted me no results so I'll go out on a limb and say that, at least in this country, it's probably been a pretty small number over the years.

    What's always struck me as sad is that people kill the abortion doctors at all. It's the woman having the abortion and making the choice, not the doctor, but you can't kill the mother so the doctor is the next big thing. It's sort of like having a whipping boy.
     
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    Why are you defending murder? Because apparently you think there is an insignificant number of them? Every day doctors are intimidated and fear for their lives because their names and addresses are published, and people like you are fomenting violence against them.

    And this justifies murder for you? You are equating the life of a zef with that of an established person. They are not the same.
     
  15. phil white

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    Abortion, government free sterilization and mass immigration/assimilation are just part of the lefts plan to eliminate my race via several means.
    This targeting of white children for eventual elimination is illegal under the U.N. convention on genocide.

    Check out this and much, much more at the white genocide evidence project.

    “And then finally I want to say that we need one idea, and we’re not thinking about a solution to the problem … And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate White people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate White people off the face of the planet to solve this problem … [We need to] get very serious and not be diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem and the problem on the planet is White people.”
    Remarks during Black Media Forum on the Image of Black Americans in Mainstream Media, Howard University, October 14, broadcast by C-SPAN television network"

    http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_white_genocide_evidence_project_usa
     
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    Good, then when everyone is the same race we can stop worrying about race altogether and worry about more important stuff like what we're going to do when the oil runs out or the Earth decides it's had enough pollution and throws up all over us.
     
  17. phil white

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    Bottom line, what society decides is moral and legal will never, long term, include a right of it's members (in this case women with normal pregancies, 85% of them) to exterminate said society.
    When your body is the life line for society to the next generation you can bet your bottom dollar society is not going to let you cut it.
     
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    As Bob Whitaker noted, leftist who support the ongoing genocide of whites will only ever have five basic things to say.

    (1) There is no such thing as the white race
    (2) Every evil in history can be traced back in some way to this white race that doesn't exist.
    (3) I hope for the end of the white race.
    (4) I work for the end of the white race.
    (5) The end of the white race is inevitable.

    It's Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans and white childrens coiuntries for everyone.


    "Jose Angel Gutierrez
    United States of America
    Professor of political science and Director of the Mexican-American Studies Center at the University of Texas
    Co-Founder of La Raza Unida (English: “The Race United”)
    A B C
    “Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes…”
    “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him.”

    And much much more at the white genocide evidence project.


    http://majorityrights.com/weblog/com...ce_project_usa
     
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    Why do you support genocide?
     
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    The more one recognizes 'race' the more 'racist' one becomes. That goes for 'Hispanic' 'Black' 'White' or any other group of people seeking to self-segregate. If one insists on labeling oneself with a skin color then one must dawn the yoke of racism. It's really as simple as that.
     
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    Do you deny my race the right to exist? How can they if they can't recognize themselves?

    You are trying to justify genocide. There is nothing that justifies genocide.

    Leftist scream "racist" to shout down opposition. Are you a leftist?
     
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    Are you denying people the right of association?

    Anti-racist want no white clubs.
    Anti-racist want no white sprots teams.
    Anti-racist want no white schools.
    Anti-racist want no white neighborhoods.
    Anti-racist want no white towns.
    Anti-racist want no white countries.
    Anti-racist want no whites.
    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
     
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    What is your 'race?' I am American I am not an 'African American' or an 'Italian American' or an 'Asian American' I'm just an American.

    You are just making stuff up now...

    Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson (for instance) are racist to the core. I think what they have done to American society is appalling.
     
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    Again, define 'white' for me, are you referring to skin color? If that is so then I defy you to find a person with totally white skin color. Even albinos have a red-tint.

    You see when you start playing the 'racist' game you lose every time to other racists. In America, we are all Americans not a collection of racist cultures. Whatever differences there are should be celebrated and folks that want to marry within their own culture is fine as are those who want to intermingle. The problem we have is racism and that keeps some of us from being Americans first.
     
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    I think part of the problem, specifically with blacks, is that they cannot merge/blend into the white culture, as other minorities have done, and do.
     

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