And what group or race of people would that be? This quote was addressed earlier in this thread. http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/s..._equation.html __________________
Both Bush's were too liberal for my taste and, as everyone knows, liberalism is a mental disorder so, no I do not support the 'Bushies' view on eugenics just as I don't support Sanger's views.
Here is the whole article: http://library.lifedynamics.com/Birth Control Review/1932-04 April.pdf It's on pages 11-12 in the pdf.
You included in your post...."Sanger was not referring to short stature or pattern balding when she used the phrase "objectionable traits," rather she was talking about diseases such as syphilis that were ravaging especially the poor." A quote from a Sanger apologist does not qualify. Please provide any quote or written words (with references) where Sanger herself stated that all she was concerned with was transmittable STDs.
I didn't ask if you supported the Bush family view, I asked if you condemned them for it. Here's a post to read and learn from:
Yes I read all that. Other idiotic proclamations from Sanger in that article: "to increase the population slowly by keeping the birth rate at its present level of fifteen per thousand, decreasing the death rate below its present mark of 11 per thousand." and... "to keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feeble-minded, idiots, morons, Insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others In this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924" Do you see where she includes "detrimental to the stamina of the race" and "feeble-minded" and "idiots" and "morons"? How do you qualify those statements? What would it take to declare YOU a moron and have your reproductive organs ripped out of YOUR body? Maybe you are "feeble-minded" as well...HUH?
She was talking about the mentally retarded, illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, and junkies. But she never talked about sterilizing anyone involuntarilly.
Where did I write that I condemned Sanger? She was obviously 'feeble-minded' What I wonder is why you libs worship her? I don't worship the Bushies. Why do you persist in supporting eugenics? What good has it done? BTW remember Sanger extolling the virtues of the 1924 immigration act? Here is what that was all about. "Since many eugenicists were racist, they also introduced measures to restrict the reproduction of those deemed inferior racial stock. Some eugenicists in the United States succeeded in getting anti-miscegenation laws passed as a way to try to improve human heredity. They also exulted in the passage of the Immigration Act of 1924, which restricted immigration from countries with allegedly inferior biological quality." Not everyone agreed with the rising tide of Eugenics however.. "The most vocal and organized opposition to eugenics, especially to sterilization and euthanasia, came from the Catholic Church, though many conservative Protestants also opposed eugenics." Funny how morality has a way of being correct. But then morality is the ability to recognize right from wrong. Apparently some have lost that ability. Now you go get educated... http://www.4truth.net/fourtruthpbscience.aspx?pageid=8589952927
Where is the outrage in population control?...Sanger didn't advocate manditory sterilization for anyone. In Sanger's time...the conditions in migrant tenaments for children and mothers were horrific, and a public health hazzard, and that's why she broached population control. Republicans today, and many Democrats...don't want the developmentally disabled, mentally ill, STD or AIDS carriers, criminals, or prostitutes applying for citizenship. What's the outrage because Sanger thought that was unhealthy for America?
It's too bad you lack a cool head and the objectivity neccessary for anything BUT hyper emotional spin.
She supported the 1924 immigration act which specifically restricted immigrants from areas with "inferior biological quality." No because that would upset the "Negroes" and she didn't want to do that. Instead she championed a program of propaganda wherein the preachers and ministers of black congregations were to be counseled to promote eugenics. This is because she recognized that they were the most trusted segment of the "Negro" population. No one said Ol' Margaret was stupid.
Ha Ha!! Personal attack signifying you have no defense...Stick a fork in yourself...you're done...Go your wounds...Ha Ha... Just what is 'inferior biological quality?' Can you describe it? Does it apply to YOU maybe? Ha Ha
Right. If "A quote from a Sanger apologist does not qualify," do you think this does? Or any Sanger/Planned Parenthood bashing site?
Sanger worked with many black leaders on the Negro project, civil rights activist, du Bois for one. I guess they didn't realize they themselves were promoting black genocide, according to you?
I thought that was a pretty fair article...Please point out where you think it is not fair. And please describe 'inferior biological quality' which was part of the 1924 immigration act SUPPORTED by Sanger. Funny, you libs cling to the more sanguine statements of Sanger completely ignoring her radical eugenic views. A lot of folks did that with Hitler too because he knew what was 'best' for Germany.
Nah...I'll pass. This isn't anything new. The last time I tried to get someone to examine this list of quotes you cut n' pasted they did the same thing you did.....which is act like you have ADHD, and not allow any focusing or examination on the articles as a whole. And especially no chance for taking into account the naivite' of the Eugenics movement, and prevailing social norms for the time, good or bad. You just kee being angry and competitive, I'm not into it. No offense
Other than your personal insult "which is act like you have ADHD" I take no offense at your white flag.
Sorry calling names (as that poster did) is not being 'adult' or you have a very truncated view of what an adult is.
They have a worldview just like Obama does. Do you condemn Obama for his, of course you do not do that. Yours is very similar isn't it?
Sangers quotes are not that hard to understand. There is nothing to read into them. She believed (if you add them all together) a large segment of the population did not deserve to be born. And she set out ways, a strategy to change society. Those ways are racist. Today if Sanger were spouting her philosophy and her brand of morality she would be bashed by the Left like you have never seen before. She wanted freedom for women to kill and use birth control but she was way more than this as she wanted forced sterilization. She wanted rights taken away from the people she classified as "humans who should never have been born." "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people We have a lot of poor in our country today ..so most of these people in her mind weeds. This is not hard .the debate is easy if you are open minded and you actually read in her words what she said. Hitler admired her .does that say anything? In fact he modeled Her magazine ..The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics. Birth Control Review, 1921 That says it all ..right there. Birth control has benefits and one was to eliminate the black population. She just did not want them to know it. She wanted FORCED STERILIZATION. FORCED. Where is the freedom in that? I want abortion made illegal. I am told that you can't do that to women because it takes their freedom away. Who cares that it kills a human. And we have people here standing up, defending what this woman was ALL ABOUT. THIS ALL WAS A PART OF HER. THIS MADE HER THE WOMAN SHE WAS. AND IT WAS WAY MORE THAN BIRTH CONTROL. THE BIRTH CONTROL WAS A COG IN THE WHEEL. I am wrong for wanting to deny women the right to kill .but those here who love her says it was ok that she wanted to deny anyone the right to have a child. ??????????????????
