Mueller may be winding down his investigation

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  1. Nemesis

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    Because his presence would have downgraded the military just like his presidency has downgraded the office. He gave up his deepest desire to serve in the military because he valued our armed services so much he didn't want to degrage it by his participation.
     
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    I mean, it's not like the Left's been paying attention but when Russian mercs attacked, we killed the living **** out of them. We're actively on the side of Ukraine and even still advocating for Assad's removal(just not militarily.)

    If the only thing the Russians get is an opinion that the Crimean sea port should(and logically) is theirs, that's a position any moderate would have come to. I'm not intervening in the Black Sea for some port.
     
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    What aggressive action against Russia? He still hasn't enforced the sanctions voted by congress.
     
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    From the op's article:

    "The Washington Post reports that Mueller has added several prosecutors to his team, specifically assigned to the case against several Russian nationals charged in the alleged effort to spread disinformation using stolen identities during the 2016 election."

    So let me get this right. You're saying that in order to focus on Russian meddling in our election process Mueller is not going to focus on the only case the Office of Special Council has that is related to Russian meddling?

    Have I got that right?
     
  6. Nemesis

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    That's true. But it's not like Commander Bonespurs was on the field and directing our military response to the mercs' attack, now was he?

    Those MFers attacked our guys. They got their buttocks' kicked.

    But that's not what we're really talking about here.

    I actually agree with you about Crimea. It was something in Russia's interests, but not particularly important to us; hence, we didn't do much about it.
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    And yet, still no proof of its accuracy or even a public statement affirming its accuracy(Clapper doesn't count, because he hasn't seen it.)

    Try again.
     
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    Well played. :applause:
     
  9. Nemesis

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    No. I think I made my point.

    I will accept your unconditional surrender in private.
     
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    No, seriously, Newsweek's 'idea' of confirmation is basically restating its claims as some kind of relevation. So as an example: Manafort's Ukraine dealings were public knowledge. That's not a confirmation of Steele's claims.

    And no one worth their salt would ever take a unsourced report, REBUTED by Mueller's own agency itself(McClatchy) seriously.

    There has never been a confirmation of the dossier. Given the chance, the FBI ran away into 'classified setting' mode.
     
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    If you add the words 'so far' to your question, you do!!
     
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  12. Ethereal

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    For all intents and purposes, it does not exist. It's just a conspiracy theory cooked up by Trump's enemies.
     
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    It is a basically a coup attempt.
     
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    Yes, many of the indictments that Mueller made are pure garbage. I was delighted when I heard one of the companies indicted by Mueller actually showed up in court with high-powered trial lawyers demanding a trial. Totally caught Mueller and his sycophants off guard. Apparently, Mueller forget that there is still a legal system in America. He's been trying to worm his way out of that trial because he knows they are going to wipe the floor with him. That is probably a big reason why he's planning on passing off some of his duties to underlings, so he can throw them under the bus when they lose in court.
     
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    Mueller is a fraud. His investigation is a scam. It's obvious. Now begins the ignominious unwinding phase where Mueller tries to quietly exit stage left before his pathetic indictments begin collapsing in court.
     
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    Your entire position basically boils down to: Mueller might have some evidence.

    If you want to think that is a winning position, then be my guest. But something tells me that will not actually stand up to real scrutiny. You should definitely keep a close eye on Mueller's shaky indictments going forward. Already, Mueller's team has been admonished by a federal judge before the trial has even started. Mueller never expected the defendants to actually show up in court, much less with high-powered trial lawyers, and now he is panicking because he knows they are going to shred him six ways from Sunday. The WAPO reporting on the winding down phase is basically their attempt to slink off before the entire collusion narrative starts going down in flames.
     
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    The Washington Post is now part of the right-wing noise machine, according to TomFitz.

    LOL
     
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    It could be true. It could also be true that Trump is actually a reptilian shape-shifter. We just don't know!
     
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    Trump was the Commander in Chief who gave the order, as opposed to the ball-less Obama, who "drew a red line in the sand", and then backed off like the daisy he is.

    He never did ANYTHING that would upset "Vladipoo", his mancrush.
     
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    Nothing but BULLSHIT HEARSAY. The HOTEL RECORDS SAY OTHERWISE.

    More of the LIES the Hillary Campaign PAID $MILLIONS to have a foreign agent obtain from KGB-linked Russians.

    Somehow...the Grand Buffoon, who is MANDATED to investigate "Russian Collusion" to influence the election, isn't interested on the ONLY PROVEN EXAMPLE OF THAT WE HAVE.

    Odd, isn't it?
     
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    By the way, that's not a good thing. This contest to see who can be the most antagonistic towards Russia is incredibly reckless and dangerous.
     
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    He was 4F = you don't get accepted...as opposed to FLEEING THE COUNTRY like Clinton did...
     
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    Bullshit. He bombed them, killing hundreds of them, bombed their Number One ally, Syria, as well, built the missile defense shield in their backyard (Poland) , is selling weapons to the Ukraine, opened up the European energy market to American businesses, etc, etc.

    ALL OF WHICH OBAMA DID NOT DO, opting to allow Putin control of 20% of our uranium reserves, not doing a damned thing about Putin's aggression, even refusing to sell our ALLY the UKRAINE, weapons, reneging on the European missile shield, SECRETLY PROMISING "MORE FLEXIBILTIY AFTER HIS ELECTION" to Putin, and then ORDERING THE CYBER INTELL SERVICES TO STAND DOWN after he learned about Russian cyber meddling in the election.

    Spare us the silliass bullshit...
     
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    The thing about the game Hot Potato is that no one actually wants the hot potato. And that's what you're going to see here, the 'deferred prosecutors' are going to quickly dismiss the case and ideally in a subtle quiet fashion. It's sad that lawyers could do this to their own profession, though it's not unusual. Crooked doctors, teachers, politicians and yes there are crooked lawyers.

    So who can you trust? Yourself. And if you can't trust yourself, you've got nobody.
     
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    Trust to small-scale associations: Family, friends, religious congregations, etc.

    As for the crooked lawyers, it's hardly surprising given the historical role of lawyers as an institution of oppression and exploitation. Most positions of authority have been abused, which is why we should try to disperse authority instead of concentrating it.
     

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