Mueller may be winding down his investigation

Psychologically speaking, I feel it can go both ways. I feel like the more people involved in decision making, the more murky it becomes. Whereas concentrated government becomes more efficient. It's not really the model of the organization that matters, it's more the people in it.
Can you find people of a strong morale foundation, that can resist temptation for evils(Hurting others, etc.)? If you can build an organization of people who have that morale foundation/sense of mission then you can accomplish the goals of your organization.

But if your organization is ran by/has members who are personally vested in themselves first, then that organization becomes prone to corruption.

 

"Mueller may be winding down his investigation"

Thank you god! I thought it was gonna go on unto the next presidential election.

 

Utter nonsense. Trump has bent over (backwards) for Russia.

Read this and educate yourself, my sycophantic chum:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/09/politics/trump-russia-historical-analysis/index.html

 

Time and money!

 

You are correct that Clinton was not honorable.

But that hardly means that Trump's story about his painful bone spurs was true. In fact, it looks like his father shopped for a medical opinion to keep him out of the military:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html

 

NY times lol you might as well posted National Enquirer except it has more integrity! Elvis is so alive and working in a chip shop lol. I have no doubt Trump had help to keep him out the military but I remember this phrase about glass houses and stones lol.

How did you feel about Bill's Draft dodging? If you're a Bernie supporter then you should use google first.

 

The only thing "odd" here is that you apparently haven't bothered to pay attention to the news--and this is very old news. Trump's own bodyguard has testified that trump was there, my uninformed amigo:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...n-offered-trump-women-was-turned-down-n819386

WASHINGTON — After a business meeting before the Miss Universe Pageant in 2013, a Russian participant offered to "send five women" to Donald Trump's hotel room in Moscow, his longtime bodyguard told Congress this week, according to three sources who were present for the interview.

Two of the sources said the bodyguard, Keith Schiller, viewed the offer as a joke, and immediately responded, "We don't do that type of stuff."

The two sources said Schiller's comments came in the context of him adamantly disputing the allegations made in the Trump dossier, written by a former British intelligence operative, which describes Trump having an encounter with prostitutes at the hotel during the pageant. Schiller described his reaction to that story as being, "Oh my God, that's bull----," two sources said.

The conversation with the Russian about the five women took place after a morning meeting about the pageant in Moscow broke up, two sources said.

That night, two sources said, Schiller said he discussed the conversation with Trump as Trump was walking back to his hotel room, and Schiller said the two men laughed about it as Trump went to bed alone. Schiller testified that he stood outside Trump's hotel room for a time and then went to bed.

One source noted that Schiller testified he eventually left Trump's hotel room door and could not say for sure what happened during the remainder of the night.


The conversation with the Russian about the five women took place after a morning meeting about the pageant in Moscow broke up, two sources said.

That night, two sources said, Schiller said he discussed the conversation

 

If you think that, you may need to read a few detective novels, and come to an understanding of how blackmail works. (hint, it isn't effective anymore once the tape is leaked).

And Trump has not "operated agressively" against Russia. Quite the opposite, in fact, as the entire world (and especially our allies) knows.

BTW, I have little doubt that we will see the peepee tape if it exists (and I do think it does, now that Trump has been caught lying about the circumstances)

I used to think that the tape may well not have existed (I didn't think it was all that important anyway, the money laundering was the real issue). But when Trump agressively denied it, and lied in the denial in a way that was very easy to check (a common thread in Trump lies), I changed my mind.

The Russians will use the tape when they have decided that Trump is no longer useful to them. Shortly after that (or maybe even before) Putin's oligarch friends will suddenly and agressively unwind their ownerships and loans on Trump properties. They will cash him out.

They'll probably give Melania a castle in Slovenia and allow her to jet set around once she cashed Donald out and gets her share.

 

I already posted that Clinton was not honorable. Pay attention, my tedious chum.

I wonder if Donald had his painful bone spurs removed.

 

Actually, James Clappers has said publicly that most of what is in the "dossier" regarding money laundering and influence peddling is true. He did not comment about the peepee tape, as it is not materially important.

Of course, in Trump's mind, the tape is the big issue. He lives for cable TV, and he knows that his tabloid believing audience will focus on a pee pee tape, and ignore complex and detailed stories about money laundering and finacial fraud, even though they are where the crimes are. He knows that his audience is very shallow and oriented to tabloid TV, as he is.

 

Let's put it this way: If money laundering/influence peddling were true(again, the so-called Page deal went to a company in Qatar, one I'm pretty sure Page doesn't own) then the FBI by all rights should have immediately had Trump arrested prior to the inauguration. Yet, they didn't do that.

I refuse to believe it took them 2 years to prove what they were told by the dossier, when they 'opened' the investigation(who knows when, since they often lie about it now) but obviously let's say in the spring of 2016.

I also refuse to believe it when they cannot openly confirm it, even though Comey had openly denied it. See, that's the problem with liars: Once you lie, you're discredited. Once you lie, you now have a higher burden of truth. One they haven't even come close to trying to reach.

 

Exactly.

 

I don't think it took them two years. The standard for establishing something to be accepted as fact in the intelligence world is vastly different from making a case before a jury.

I really don't care what you refuse to believe or not. You eagerly accept the most ridiculous claims out of Trump's mouth at face value with no fact checking or research at all.

And lecturing us about lying, while vigourously defending one of the biggest liars in history is laughable on its face.

 

Trump can lie, he's a politician. A law enforcement agency? Not so much. But your message underlies the point: They didn't need evidence to 'establish it as fact' in their minds. They were already convinced! You've done a great job of showing Strozok's bias.

Unfortunately for you and them what you said is also true: A much higher standard exists in Court, than exists in the 'intelligence community'. Which is why we crucify Rosenstein for bringing a case without publicly detailing the crimes accused. The defense has a right to that information, hell the public has a right to that information.

The reality is, and I think it's settling in for you as well is that the POTUS will finish his term in 2020. And because of the wrongful persecution, he may very well win a second term. And that MIGHT not have happened, had the left/law enforcement agencies not tried to use the hammer of the law in a political setting.

Irony, once again just like in Nov 8 2016, taking defeat from the jaws of victory. Hopefully, this utter farce shows the Left the right way to proceed in politics. The way we proceeded prior to Trump.

 

They mysteriously vanished.

You can probably find them next to the imaginary Trump Steaks, opposite the leftover Trump U diplomas, alongside a stack of unpaid bills.

 

Sorry, but just about everyone in Washington had no doubt about what life would be like if a clown like Trump ever became President. Trump has been confirming their concerns for a year and a half now.

So, obsessing about Strzock's personal views hardly merits attention, since that view was pretty much universal outside of the Heritage Foundation and Jeff Session's office.

If this is your basis for claiming a wrongful prosecution, good luck with that! (it is apparantly the ONLY thing the tall radio right has had for months).

Rosenstien has not brought a case, yet. So, I have no idea what you're talking about.

And the GOP has tried to use the law as a political weapon for as long as you have been alive. That's what the Clinton impeachment was all about.

 

So what are we doing with Special Counsel? With a PROSECUTOR. The accused should stand charged of CRIMES. Not allegations. CRIMES. The crimes are then proven in a trial. Normally, in a sane world. The FBI didn't have evidence of crimes, but went along with it anyway. The Left has no more proof than anyone else, but that doesn't matter. This is SICK. It's torment.

It's the actions of a man who should not be Deputy Attorney General. Actions to investigate your own boss(Sessions) are tantamount to insubordination. What, do you think I forgot that?(thank you, fmr senator Franken for being the cause of that mess.)

The rule of law has been abandoned, but not necessarily by Trump. But by the people charged with enforcing it. That is worse than Russian Collusion(if it happened). Whether you acknowledge that or not.

 

Please refute a SINGLE FACT I POSTED, first, my denialist, TDS head in the sand compadre.

 

Read the article, my irony-oozing amigo.

 

Don't you normally first perform an investigation to decide if someone should be charged with a crime?

 

If it was helping the Left, it would.


FBI Agent Sally Moyer Who Texted ‘F*ck Trump’ is Registered Dem – Filtered Evidence From Hillary’s Devices Used in Probe

 

Typically, authorities are called to a place where an alleged act of wrongdoing occurred(think: A bank robbery, a murder scene, etc.) And we instantly know that a crime has been committed. The investigation is to find out who perpetuated the crime, and why. Now, key note: The only illegal activity that we actively know is the hacking(We don't actually know this, Crowdstrike said it, DNC doesn't allow for server investigation but let's move beyond that and say for the purpose of common sense that this is the crime we know.)

Given this, if the investigation had any real sense of legitimacy, Mueller would start RIGHT there and build the case from there. Yet, he's focused almost exclusively on the Paul Manafort case. The speculation had been 'getting him to flip', but it's borderline obvious even to Tomfitz: This is Mueller's main case at hand. Because it's the ONLY case.

Sure, I can presume that he might have 'evidence' of other crimes, but stunningly he hasn't brought this forward or charged it. We still don't even know what Cohen's charged with(something about the cab medallions or whatever.)

And because he openly admitted that Trump is not a 'target' of the investigation, we can conclude almost decisively that there's no evidence. We can conclude this on a much much stronger basis than the dossier.

Notice why Trump has given even the so-called probe not much thought these days? Because everyone knows Mueller has no leg to stand on.

 

I can debunk your entire explanation with your first word... nothing typical about a presidential campaign having so many connections to a country that did what Russia did in 2016... have patience... truth will out...

 

Does that patience mean up to and beyond the 2020 elections by any chance?

 

Probably not... I certainly hope it wouldn't take that long, although some of the trials may run through 2020...