Muhammad owned slaves - Should we remove mosques from U.S.?

No, you're wrong - your knee-jerk, standard-issue "progressive" deflection IS off-topic.

The inconsistency, double-standards and hypocrisy surrounding the selective calls to remove the objects and buildings associated with slave owners has nothing to do with the Bible or what any of the Abrahamic religions preach. It has to do with the inconsistency, double-standards, hypocrisy and bigotry that "progressives" preach.

You know what else has nothing to do with the subject of this thread? The Islamophobia of "progressives" that makes you and your comrades (including our previous president) unable to discuss anything associated with Islam and Muhammad, hence the constant attempts to silence these discussions with your incessant deflections.

 

What would really freak me out is finding former CIA director John Brennan standing on my doorstep prattling about how jihadists are our friends...

'Fluffy!! Get the chew toy!!"

 

no one is asking people to remove confederate objects from private property, yes confederate flags should not be flying on state house lawns, nor should confederate soldiers be put on a pedestal on the state house lawn, ect....

 

did you mean Bush....

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/09/13/zelizer.bush.muslims/index.html

"Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America; they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior," Bush said.

 

I always love that but Christianity argument for Islamic apologetics. It shows you exactly why they're arguing what they argue. It is all about Christianity for them. That is the only reason they are being so apologetic to Islam.

Well played. I hope you don't mind if I borrow your tactic in the future.

 

Precisely true, and I would add that their their tu quoque deflections are largely and deliberately intended to antagonize Christians - something they would never dream of doing to Muslims. Unfortunately for them, I'm an Agnostic so that tactic falls flat on its face with non-Christians such as myself.

What I find ironic and amusing about their incessant efforts to silence any discussion and criticism surrounding Islam, Muhammad, Islamism, jihadism, takfirism, Shari'a law, etc., is that they are a blatant manifestation of their own Islamophobia and the moral and intellectual cowardice that drives it.

I am not the only person who has noticed this. A British Muslima, Qanta Ahmed, noted this when observing former President Obama's notorious unwillingness to utter the word "Islamism":

Thus we also find that their attempts to hurl the "Islamophobia" pejorative at people who are not afraid to discuss, criticize and judge Islam, Muhammad, Islamism, jihadism, takfirism, Shari'a law, etc., on their own merits qualify as another projection of their own Islamophobia.

While their Islamophobia might be considered irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not we should remove, relocate, shroud any object or building associated with Muhammad - a man who owned slaves and fought so that others could own them - it is probably the main reason why you will never hear them call for the removal of mosques or any depiction of Muhammad, such as the one we find in the U.S. Supreme Court building.

Thanks, feel free...

 

As did the Founding Fathers much later than the 7 century. So to have any equality in your question we should also remove all the Christian churches from America.

 

Jesus never owned slaves. But libs hate him.

 

The reason I want all confederate memorials removes is because they are tributes to our enemies. The confederacy was NOT the United States. It was an enemy nation. We should not honor Confederate traitors anymore than we should honor the New York Loyalists who fought alongside the British during the revolution?

And believe me, if any of the other treason loving southern pieces of trash who want to put up statues saw New Yorkers putting up statues of people like William Franklin, one of the Loyalist leaders, and the Royal Governor of New York, they would be up in arms about it, and call it dishonoring the founders and all those who fought against the British and the loyalists, which is exactly what honoring the confederacy does. It dishonors all those who died to fight them. None of the supporters of these memorials are Americans at all. They are confederates. They simply live in the US because they don't have their own nation.

and let's get one thing perfectly clear. Very few of these confederate memorials were actually put up as memorials. Almost none of these were build until the 20's century. They were put up in the early days of Jim Crow, and in the 50's during the civil rights era, as a way to intiminate blacks.

 

The word "slave" is used 130 times in the New Testament with St Paul calling Christians the "slaves of Christ". Therefore, we must remove all churches from society.

Deal?

 

Conservative Ayn Rand called Jesus the biggest fraud in history.

 

Neither did Abraham Lincoln but let's not let facts get between the Babeuvian Illiterati and the statues they want removed:

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

 

You'd have to remove all religious worship centers for Hindus, Buddhists too---everyone. Also remove all socialist and atheist centers---as they have enslaved millions in gulags and collective farms.

 

Mosques are symbols of Mohammad, how about removing mosques? In fact, while a statue is a passive item that requires a person have knowledge to understand what it represents, a mosque actively promotes the ideology of mohammud, and ideology of slavery and murder and child rape. So a mosque is far worse than a statue.

 

In the 15th century Pope Innocent was given and accepted a hundred slaves from Ferdinand of Aragon. Should we remove Catholic Churches from the US?

 

That is a "student" at UW-Madison, a place that long ago dropped education from its curriculum. I'm not sure, but I think that if you get an SAT above 800 they won't let you enroll.

 

I support the removal of all Mosques on government property.

 

You posted this in the wrong forum.

This belongs in the COMEDY Section.

 

Mosques are owned and operated by private organizations. They are protected by the first amendment. The government does not have the same luxury.

 

Indeed, "progressive" double-standards and hypocrisy are a joke.

 

It's all gotta go, all churches, mosques, synagogues, memorials of any kind anywhere, all flags because slavery is a part of human history, of every country. The Amerinds, btw, were practitioners of slavery and much worse as a matter of irrefutable historical fact. So take their reservations and all their cultural accoutrement away as well.

God forbid anyone builds a snowman in their yard this Winter. Ticks off several "offensive" boxes all "rolled up" into one hideously racist display of white privilege. Why is it there are no black snowmen, HMMMM?

There's ongoing slavery RIGHT NOW all over the nonwhite world you say? Eh, who cares, can't make any grievance industry money off that in the U.S. so F em.

 

Clearly "progressives" have no respect for free speech, property rights, and religious rights in their cleansing of the USA. They want all symbols that offend them removed from public and private property (such as the car from the Dukes of Hazard). They want all speech that offends them silenced. They want Christianity removed from public view, including removal from the political, business, social, and public arenas.

A silent statue of Robert E Lee offends them, but a mosque promoting a religion that supports slavery, child rape, and murder, is acceptable to the progs? Not to mention a mosque that contains people who want to radicalize muslims into committing terrorist acts against Americans - but maybe that's the "progressives" real agenda? Maybe progs are not actually concerned about slavery, maybe their intent is the destruction of America.

 

Thank you for posting this because the calls for removing or obscuring the statues of slave owners other than Muhammad have not been limited to objects on public or government property, as you correctly pointed out.

This is why the question I posed in the opening post regarding calls for the removal of objects, statues and building associated with the slave owner Muhammad were not limited to those located on public or government property, either.

As I pointed out in the OP, anti-Americanism is a factor with some of the groups associated with the removal of Confederate statues, such as this one in Durhan, NC:



Go ahead and take up the Workers World Party's invitation to visit their website and see what you find...

 

They're not double-standards, they are just so progressive that they progress through time and space so fast that we cannot see or comprehend them fully.

 

Indians had slaves, too.

You just like Indians better because they weren't White and the Confederates were.