NRA: 'Children Can Have Fun At The Shooting Range'

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    When he's around. He cant' be carried in a purse.....

    You missed the point. A woman is being attacked. Using martial arts, she cannot do anything to hurt her opponent, until he gets into grappling range. At that point she has no choice but to hurt him. With a handgun, she can h old him off at 10 feet, and he can run away. She doesn't have to face the repercussions of being in hand to hand combat and getting hurt. With martial arts, she has fewer choices. She has to attack when he's in range, otherwise he has the advantage.

    Not if proper range is being kept.
    That one was just a bit of a parody of anti-gunners, who claim all gun owners are itching to kill somebody. However, the fact remains, martial arts can only be used by hurting somebody. A gun can be (and hopefully is) a standoff weapon.
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Again, only if you count 18 and 19 yr olds as children, and only if you count suicides as gun deaths.
    From your link
    If you count true children (12 and under) the number is half of that. Also, as I said, anybody who uses numbers vs. rates in a country of 300+ million is trying to exaggerate things.
     
  3. mtlhdtodd

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    The Brady bunch has had their numbers debunked so many times and the hoplophobic media and their lackeys still regurgitate them as as fact when the only verifiable fact is they came from Sarah Brady's and Josh Sugarman's azz.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell him to be careful; those guns can be dangerous.
     
  5. MolonLabe2009

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    My spot is near Barstow by the 15 and Fort Irwin Road. You can see Calico Ghost Town from where we target practice.

    My late Father-in-law started shooting at that spot in the 60's.

    I started shooting there in 1983 when I met my wife.
     
  6. EggKiller

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    Total fabrication. The tweet does not say anything about Uzis, 30 rd clips or monsters. You made that lie up yourself.
    The article mentions monsters under the bed but nothing else.
    Hint, when you need to lie to create a thread it becomes obvious your whole premise is a lie.
     
  7. Karma Mechanic

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    The Myopic idiots at the NRA are a danger to themselves and others and should have their weapons taken away
     
  8. vino909

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    how is this different if a child gets into a car and hits and kills someone? The teacher in this case was at fault. If it were a car, the parents would be at fault for leaving the keys where the child could get to them. So do you want to outlaw cars now?
     
  9. EggKiller

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    I agree almost 100%. That nine year old girl could shoot an Uzi without problem. It takes more training and instruction than she was given though. That's really where the fault lies. She was totally unprepared for the sustained recoil. That is the instructors fault and possibly the companies fault if they exhibit more interest in a speedy experience over a safe experience.

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    I guess I should also add a disclaimer. No idea how much that video was edited. I could be wrong.
     
  10. RP12

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    And how many of those children are getting killed by gang members? Many who are "children" themselves.
     
  11. Wolverine

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    Yeah, if you include 21 year old adults who are victims of gang violence.

    No need to lie.
     
  12. Wolverine

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    Children can have fun shooting guns. I see the gun control advocates use one instance to be like "ALL SHOOTING IS BAD!!!!!!111111", and blatantly ignore the reality of the situation.
     
  13. RP12

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    Trying to remember are you not the one that posted a thread about how many college girls get raped but yet you think anyone carrying a gun to prevent that needs therapy? How can you have it both ways? Or is it just the hatred of the gun?
     
  14. Wolverine

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    The instructor did not have control over the firearm. If I take inexperience people shooting, I hover over them. Especially with semi-automatics.

    The responsibility for the accident lies on the instructor for his lack of control, and he paid dearly for that oversight.
     
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    You dont need to be a NRA member to own a gun.. What is it with you and misinfo? There is no possible way you actually believe what you type.
     
  16. RP12

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    I thought all you needed was a dog or a audio of a dog now you need a large boyfriend to be with you 24/7 to protect you? What a sexist thought.
     
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    "PolitiFact Oregon obtained a breakdown by age from the CDC’s online database and found that about half of all youth gun deaths — 7,223 of 14,258 — are 18- and 19-year-olds. The same goes for unintentional injuries, roughly 46 percent of which — 7,479 of 16,172 — are 18- and 19-year-olds.

    Remove those two years from the calculation, and there are an average of 4.76 unintentional injuries each day and 3.85 deaths.

    That is significant given the use of the word "children" in the Brady Campaign’s display, along with a chalkboard and shoes suited to children younger than 12. In addition, people 18 and older are legally considered adults. They are allowed to buy guns and ammunition without parental consent, and are solely responsible for crimes they commit using those weapons."


    Your own citation disputes your claim. Perhaps stop listening to anything published by the Brady Campaign or anything to do with Bloomberg. It might help you get accurate information
     
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    Good for you and him. Have fun ,be safe.
     
  19. EggKiller

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    Agreed. From the short clip I saw yesterday I saw mistakes and logical fixes I would have made. Arm chair quarterbacking maybe but moving from one single shot to a five round burst without the instructor in control is obviously unwise. Especially with a young person. A full grown adult with some shooting experience shouldn't have a problem. A youngish child with presumably no expierience? Gotta walk a lot slower to the finish line.
     
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    No, I'm merely pointing out that teaching children something that are not ready for is ridiculously stupid.

    I'm sure many of those who support children playing with guns somehow think they are mentally ready to play with weapons of death, but not weapons of life, so to speak.
     
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    I'm not even a prolifer but more death is brought about by abortions than guns. Careful what you wish for.
     
  22. RP12

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    Its just your opinion they are not ready for it.
     
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    A kid, a .22 rifle, and a buncha empty cans = tonsafun.

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    Once again, no one disputes that you and yours should be absolutely FORBIDDEN from even looking at firearms. Disarm Obama voters, cut the murder rate by MORE THAN HALF, just like that.

    Leave the rest of us, and our children, alone, please. We are restricted by YOUR LIMITATIONS...sorry.
     
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    Nothing wrong with teaching children responsible gun care and usage may well save their lives one day. Matter of fact firearm usage should be an elective at High School, parental opt in of course.
     
  25. Max Rockatansky

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    Worse, they are advocating that government step in and make laws dictating how people should parent.

    In this case, I think it was stupid to give a 9-year old a full auto pistol. The spinning recoil effect of such a weapon makes it unstable for a person with relatively weak upper body strength. It would have been smarter to let her use a weapon with a stock on it for better stability. This same scenario resulted in the death of a child.

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