Obama asks military leaders if they will fire on U.S. citizens

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  1. Pilate

    Pilate New Member

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    Was this ever an issue under previous Presidents?
     
  2. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    By who? The other 99% who also failed to shoot you?

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    By who? The other 99% who also failed to shoot you?
     
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    Sworn to protect the constitution. If the military is told to attack citizens who are only exercising their constitutional rights, it would be a violation of the oath to obey.
     
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    yikes. i have some dumb opinions on it. maybe if you guys hadn't paraded and celebrated your guns like loons the mentally unstable wouldn't be havin a hayday with them? if i have kids i will teach them proper. the necessity of 2a is a sad reality not something to hold celebrations and heroic fantasies over.
     
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    Rob, for once I agree with you. Military members would never fire on fellow citizens as their families would be gone when they got home.
     
  6. AceFrehley

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    I've been in the Army as well, and am confident enough weapons would be pointed in the correct direction. ;)
     
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    Even worse, it's a plagiarized infowars piece!
     
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    That seems a bit hyperbolic..

    The assault weapons ban has expired and both the DC and Chicago handgun bans have been quashed by the supreme court!
     
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    Well he plagiarized the piece from Alex Jones, and Alex Jones makes his living off worrying paranoid people.
     
  10. AceFrehley

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    I'd call it likely true, but will reserve judgment. While I would say this is a tad light on evidence, none of us should be surprised if this is true. Barack Obama was mentored by a card-carrying communist, and has been revealing his communist leanings since Day One. Of course he wants to disarm the American people and have a military willing to fire on us.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    This isn't really news. In his expose of Britain's civil defense plan in the event of a nuclear attack, 'War Plan, UK', Duncan Campbell revealed that UK police and military would be armed and authorised to shoot to kill either those considered too sick to survive the effects of radiation, because of the likelihood that medical sevices would be critically overrun, or in case of civilian insurrection.
    I have no doubt that the US has similar plans in place for all manner of eventualities.
     
  12. Really People?

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    Wasn't before...

    Isn't now...
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Obama issues the orders to attack Iran, and they use their Nukes on America.

    500,000 Americans die and a US city is laid waste.

    Obama declares martial law....

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    US troops were never allowed to be used on US soil before Obama.

    American citizens werent assassinated without trial before Obama.

    American citizens werent allowed to be held without trial before Obama.
     
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    In China the government went outside the city to get other ethnic people to crush the people who were demanding freedom. Our Mexican cousins that join the military for citizenship will kill Blacks or whites if they are told to. If unrest starts the BH Obama team can gather the right people to put down any group that is causing trouble but don't expect BHO to use the military to put down Mexicans demanding the Southwest be returned to Mexico. No military force will be sent to the south to stop the New Black Panther's establishment of a separate state.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
     
  15. Really People?

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    As far as I know, that still hasn't happened...

    American citizens operating as part of a terrorist cell is pretty rare...
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    1. It hasnt happened yet but its now the law

    2. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter....
     
  17. Really People?

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    What law is that?

    So, al Qaeda members are freedom fighters to you?
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

    Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1


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    Nope, They are not.

    As far as I know, theres no law that governs who can call who a terrorist.....

    Yet once your designated a terrorist, you have no rights whatsoever.
     
  19. Really People?

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    Sounds like their purpose is pretty specific...

    Also, there's no law pertaining to this...

    Just a new assignment...




    So, why are some people in such a rush to designate someone a terrorist, and, why do some folks get all up-in-arms when the word terrorism isn't used verbatim?
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    As for your first statement, true, but that could happen with any President.
    As for the next three statements:
    1 Wrong
    2 You actually believe that don't ya
    3 See above
     
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    They declared themself as a terrorist, please do not support terrorists just because they are or were US citizens, they gave up their rights as a citizen when they declared war on America (You included).
     
  22. Really People?

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    Exactly...
     
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    Media buzz as US confirms Russian troops to train on American soil


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    The US has confirmed that Russian troops will carry out joint anti-terror drills on American soil in May. Reports of the unprecedented initiative had triggered hysteria in American public debate, with claims of the US fraternizing with “the enemy.”

    (*)Commander Wendy L. Snyder, US Defense Press Officer for policy told The New American in an e-mail the Russian soldiers will be invited by the US government.

    This is part of a “formal bilateral exchange program between the US and Russia that seeks to develop transparency and promote defense reform,” she wrote.

    Around twenty airborne Russian troops with arrive in Fort Carson, Colorado to take part in the training program targeting “terrorists”. It will be the first time Russian soldiers have conducted military training on American territory.

    However, the landmark news of the Russian troops’ arrival was not greeted with enthusiasm by everyone. Fear-mongering reports in US media called the exercise “a front” for the Russians to turn US weapons against the Americans and “take and hold Denver airport.”

    Citing an erroneous report that it said came from the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, US website theblaze.com claimed just that.

    “Russian airborne troops (using US weapons that they had previously trained with at Fort Carson) will fly to and then parachute from their planes having the objectives of seizing the CIA’s main computer facility in Denver, the NSA’s main computer facility in Bluffdale, Utah, and taking control of main runways and terminals of the Denver International Airport,” the publication wrote.

    The report goes on to say the exercise is for the “evacuation of the key personnel and equipment previously ‘freed’ from the CIA’s Denver base.”
    There is currently no information either in English or in Russian that describes such a drill on the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation website.

    It is unclear where these reports originated, as RT verified with Russian Airborne Forces spokesperson Col. Aleksandr Kucherenko that he had said nothing pertaining to the capture of Denver airport.

    RT reported on the story on Wednesday, citing Kucherenko who announced that “Airborne troops from Russia and the United States will hold joint anti-terror drills in the US state of Colorado between May 24 and 31.”

    Besides the military drills, the Russian soldiers are expected to get a taste of local life at a baseball game in Colorado Springs.

    Foreign troops operating and training in the United States have been a continuous bone of contention in American public debate.

    Paul Watson, writing for prisonplanet.com says that their presence touches upon latent fears of “global UN peacekeeping troops being used to quell unrest inside America.”

    Drills involving outside troops also raise worries that the US would have to “rely on foreign mercenaries to restore order, confiscate weapons or even incarcerate citizens during a national emergency, because of the likelihood that Americans would refuse to carry out such orders against other Americans,” Watson writes.

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    Do they have to submit their declaration of war, in triplicate, to the US department of state to be declared a terrorist?

    Whats the criteria?
     
  24. Really People?

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/us-russian-soldiers-train-together-in-colorado/

    So, whatever happened to the absolutely nutso claim that the Russian soldiers were going to "take and hold the Denver airport," as mentioned in your nearly year-old article...

    I mean, according to your quote, someone honestly thought that 20 Russian soldiers were going to take over a US airport...LMAO!!!

    Oh, BTW, allow me to point out a particularly relevant part of the Fox News article I quoted:

    Sooooooo, what's the deal here?


    I'd say being an active part of a known terrorist organization would probably do the trick...
     
  25. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Theyre talking about drills.

    There are other reports that give the president the option of using mercenaries from Haliburton, aka KBR.

    No, thats not true. The muslim brotherhood is a known terrorist organization and we let them take over Egypt.

    HAMAS is a well known terrorist organization and Obama gave them hundreds of millions of dollars...
     

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