Palestinian Statehood officially acknowledged.

Perhaps this issue started for you 5 years ago, we carry it for nearly a 100 years, if you cant understand its origins than what kind of a serious conversation can we possibly have? you dont belive its an old blood feud or simply dont care?

 

In my opinion, that may be difficult to establish without anti-hypocrisy laws and a mechanism to inquire into such moral rectitude; from my understanding, not even theocracies are up to that challenge in modern times.

 

back on topic please .

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And yet it's on the same continent as Britain (an equally huge contributer to occupation forces) and they never intended to annex Germany. Possibly because the public doesn't dehumanise the Germans the way the Israelis do the Palestinians?

 

A modern nation like Israel has no business clinging to what you've admitted to be an "old blood feud" especially when the international community is screaming in their face with a megaphone that they need to stop.

 

Israel consistently refuses negotiations, claiming they'll only negotiate with US as the arbitrator (a country with obvious vested interest in Israeli expansion) and on the condition that no matter what is determined during diplomatic process, Israel will always be allowed to expand.

 

LOL

Your memory is defective. I must prove that I never posted anything on Jews being a different race....very logical Marlowe.....LOL

You can't prove it and must now withdraw your accusation as a lie.

 

Especially how does one prove that one never claimed something.

 

YOU claimed that I considered Jews a different race and now, when you cannot back it up, you require that I prove that I never said something and when that fails, want to go back to topic. LOL

 

How expand? Any sources to back this up?

 

Before the 20th Century ? can you produce a few facts - incidents dates - places etc. ?


Coz I've not read of any Arab- Jew conflicts in Palestine during the 19th century . during Ottoman Empire

From all accounts the unrest started after the arrival of European Ashkenazi Zionist Jews who arrived with Herzl's Plan which the Arab rightly recognized as an existential threat. ...

That information came from Jewish sources i.e. JewsAgainstZionists, etc. .

Was I misinformed ?

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No progress will be made until Israel agrees to stick to its own borders and fall in line with the demands of the international community.

I don't care that some Palestinian kid hit you with a rock, that's no reason to hate an entire people and support a policy of systematic ethnic cleansing, and the building of infrastructure over the tattered remains of civilian areas, which Israel continues to destroy in the most aggressive manner possible. You people need to stop living in a fantasy world where you are simply reacting to aggression - that is clearly not the case. The Israeli public needs to look in the mirror and see that all they have is hatred for Arabs. They don't recognise their humanity and this is reflected in their policy.

 

Not sure, I remember it from a lecture. A source was given but it's probably not available on the internet. I'll have to look it up, give me a bit.

 

I will say something that will make you think before joining the cacophony of illiterates.
Ask yourself the following question... of the ONE BILLIONTWO HUNDRED MILLION Muslims on this PLANET... How many are illiterate?
You will find that more than 75% are!!! Now illiterates cannot think for themselves and do not even question anything, their tendency is to follow the cleric/leader... and if this cleric/leader follows the Qur'an to a 't', you, as an unbeliever in Islam.... your goose is cooked!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember 'Daniel Pearl' that Jewish reporter in Pakistan and many Europeans that were slaughtered???

BTW stones KILL!!! We have had too many babies killed in their cribs by stones.

 

Take no notice - dont bother - that's the Troll's standard MO - asking for links- back up and when you give it, she simply ignores it and get you going onto something else.


... cheers.

 

75% of all musslims are illiterate? Absurd.



You'll find that almost all Muslim-majority states in the Middle East and Oceania have literacy rates of over 80%.

I don't know if you fell for what was obviously racist propaganda, or if that was a blatant lie on your part, but either way, I'm shaking my head.

Still no reason to hate them, let alone to have that hate reflected in policy in defiance of the entire international community. There is no excuse for what your country does.

 

I dont hate anyone, you dont know what you are talking about concerning the building, you really dont.

Israel wont withdraw an Inch without a peace agreement and I dont care that you dont care. a fair solution in by agreemnet, you think because you are pissed you can make others cut thier throuts?? you live in Australia what the hell do you know about terror.......

 

I said since the start of the 20th century, not 19th.

 

Oh? Does Israel, or does Israel not, have settlements on foreign soil?

I know that the actions of Israel are unambiguously illegal. What more do I need to know?

 

There is no "dehumanising", you are full of propaganda, you wont reach truth or "purity" as "freedom fighter" with nothing but crap in your head, Israel gives many services in Admin and Health to the Palestinians, our problem with them is around security, not hatred, we have many Arabs inside Israel too you know. its impossible to live here and have no reaction with Arabs, they live among us and that's fine, there is no hate (racist (*)(*)(*)(*)s exluded just like there are in other places).

Britain is an Island. it stopped taking land of others when it was proved its harder for it to keep it, the best example with Britain would be Scotland, now I think I recall something there.......

Why not suggest peace btw? an ego thing? if you are willing to get ppl killed for ego then what right you have to accuse others of hatred?

 

Last was built 20 years ago, ever since the building was done in Jerusalem, no new land was lost or gain, when you hear about building its not a new settelment. btw, 700 Arab only houses are being built there by Israel too.

You just need to know what you are talking about, and you have big holes to say the least.

 

A few posts above "the problem with arabs is that they're all illiterate."

Regardless, why do you support what Israel does if it is illegal?

Wait, what? Scotland is apart of Britain, along with England and Wales, and the constituent countries remain united to this day. Also, they were joined by an act of the Scottish Parliament, which merged with England. Also, Empire was at it's height during WWII, by your logic, Britain would have sought control over Germany. But they didn't, possibly because there was no hatred for the German people, at least in the upper echelons of government?

I'v suggested nothing but peace. If Israel sticks to it's borders and recognises Palestine's sovereignty, peace will be a more attractive prospect to the Palestinians.

 

Wrong. there have been 50 new outposts built since 2001* while the old settlements continue to expand with an eight percent per annum population increase, along with expansion of infrastructure to accommodate population growth. This is not only inviting retribution (possible apart of government propaganda strategies) but a huge, unapologetic violation of international law.

* Notice the language in the link; it explicitly refers to them as "settlers."

 

I dont support the settelments but the occupation by itself was justified in 67 to fight the militants that shot us from Jordan terretory of the time. as for retreat, I support it if its part of an agreement, I will not support it if nothing changes since when we first took it.

I didnt say Scotland is in war with England, I ment they were and England did conquer them, there is a diffrence between waging war far away from the home country and in you back yard, Germany is not Britain back yard as im sure you know.

No, you suggested a chance for peace for withdrawal, Israel will return to an area that the Palestinians will be able to range every inch of it - BUT - perhaps they wont! yepeee!
Why dont you give me some attrective prospect to consider?

 

As you correctly point out, English internet warriors are quick to require Israel to risk everything in the name of justice, not realising that that is a bit thin and that they also wouldnn't give up their front yard in a dispute with a neighbour unless they got it in writing as to how the future would look.

It is a classic stalemate.