Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

LoL

You speak with a forked tongue...lol

Below you are quoted as saying:

Well my God is the Christian God, and if your god is a different one than mine as you were quoted saying then your god can't be the Christian God. That means you don't believe in the Christian God but as I've stated in my previous post you said you were a "follower of Christ" not too long ago. So then I asked the question why did you stop believing in the Christian God for another god you've made up.

You are one funny guy...lol...a confused guy that don't even realize he is confused...lol

So what is it now? Do you believe in the Christian God or not? And if you do then why do you say things like, "Me too cept . 1) Your God a different one than mine"?...lol

 

You do believe in a different God than me .. you believe God is a xenophobic genocidal maniac with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics .. a flip flopping irrational god.

I don't believe in your conception of the Christian God - and this is not the ony conception of the Christian God. Just because I don't believe your story about the Christian God - does not believe I do not believe in the Christian God.

What is the name of this "Christian God" you claim to believe in - and why can you not answer this question .. do you find this question confusing ?

How can you say my God is different - if you don't know the name of your God ? Who/What is this God you believe in - the one that you call the Christian God ..

 

You have described your God as an authoritarian dictator God who puts obedience to him over morality; or better stated, who equates obedience to him to morality. That is found in the Bible, so you aren't wrong in calling it the "Christian" God, but it also is not the God that many other self described "Christians" believe in.

 

You are in thinking as shown, but ignore your own good sense by saying it is somehow good to do so with Jesus.

Your double moral sense is noted and is also immoral.

As In Job, you would punish the hit man while ignoring the don who sent him.

Go away Satan.

You offend moral people.

Regards
DL

 

This idea of obedience to power being mistaken for morality is I think THE biggest problem with religion generally. Authoritarianism is not moral. Immoral acts are not made moral simply because one believes God ordered them. That applies to Christians just as it applies to Muslims and everyone else.

But that said, not all religious people make this error.

 

your extremist position that God committed genocide offends any and all rational people.

not the case when the authoritarian prescribes a moral. Like lets not murder each other.

 

Yes, still the case. Murder isn't wrong because somebody with power said so. If someone refrains from murder not because its wrong but because somebody in power (ie, a God) said don't murder.... I would be weary.

 

Wow! there goes that forked tongue of yours again...lol

That's your description on how you view Our Creator Almighty God, because those are your nasty spoken words spewed out of that mouth of yours. Below is a recent quote of yours spewing out those nasty disrespectful mocking words towards Our Creator Almighty God.

Then I rebuked you with my response below.

So what have we established/concluded here? .. well for one, you routinely speak with a forked tongue...lol

You are not a Christian, you once claimed to be one but obviously you're not anymore and so you are one of the unsaved at the moment. (but there is always a chance you might redeem yourself and get back on proper footing)

Your disrespectful name calling that's essentially mocking Almighty God proves it.

A true disciple of Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ doesn't mock the Christian God, they don't mock The Father, they don't mock The Son, and they don't mock The Holy Spirit. They just don't do that period! Mocking just One of Them is essentially mocking all Three of Them.

They also don't pick and choose which parts of the Holy Bible they like, and discard the rest of the Holy Bible. The Holy Bible consists of a total of 66 Books, 39 make up what we call the Old Testament and 27 make up what we call the New Testament. All those Books are the Word of God, not just the Books you like but all of them...all 66 are the Word of God.

We Read in Scripture:

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

True Disciples

21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’ Matthew 7:21-23 NLT

 

Mitt - Telling you what scripture says is not mocking the creator .. the one who mocks the creator is you .. putting words in Gods mouth every chance you get - I have never done this ... tis you who is with forked tongue mate - .trying to blame me for what you do

Mitt - I have never mocked God - You are the one continuously putting words in Gods mouth - claiming to be saved while claiming those who disagree with you are not (see above) - as if you are Jesus.

You are the one who believes God is some xenophobic genocidal flip flopping with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics - Not me.

You are the one who mocks Jesus and the HS by usurping the position of the Logos and running from scripture. I bring up the teachings of Jesus .. immediately you run to Paul .. and then accuse me of cherry picking. Good grief mate .. why must you blame others for what you do. I tell you what OT scripture says -- you cry "Forked Tongue" while running from scripture - at the same time claiming all scripture is God Breathed.

Who is the one with forked tongue here ?-- You are the one running around designating who is saved and who is not - as if you are Judge and Jury - as if you are the Logos.

I am a follower of the teachings of Christ - you run from teachings of Christ and claim to be a Christian.

 

What is this nonsense - The Bible says what it says ... and it depicts YHWH as a xenophobic, flip flopping, genocidal God - with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics.

If you can't deal with what the Bible says .. Fine - but this is a religious forum - and so rational people post what the Bible says - while irrational one's pretend the Bible doesn't say what it says.

 

There goes that forked tongue again...my...my...you just can't get rid of that intellectually dishonest bad habit of yours eh?...lol

You have no credibility because you continually display your dishonesty.

You are not telling me what the Scriptures are saying because there is no where in Scripture where those mocking words coming from out of your nasty mouth is being quoted from.

That is how you personally view Our Creator Almighty God, those are your nasty, disrespectful, mocking words...which is a misconception of yours, a misinterpretation of yours.

Our Creator Almighty God is not what you make Him out to be. That's blasphemy what you're doing...a grave sin!

He had every right being Sovereign over His creation to take out the filthy, evil, wicked human garbage/trash during the time of Noah. Their sins had to be so grossly repugnantly disgusting to Him for Him to punish all but 8 that He spared, along with pairs of animals...male & female.

We Read in Scripture:

5 The Lord observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and he saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil. 6 So the Lord was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart. 7 And the Lord said, “I will wipe this human race I have created from the face of the earth. Yes, and I will destroy every living thing—all the people, the large animals, the small animals that scurry along the ground, and even the birds of the sky. I am sorry I ever made them.” 8 But Noah found favor with the Lord. Genesis 6:5-8 NLT

Scripture also tells us that Our Creator Almighty God because He is fair and righteous He did not punish people who sinned in past times prior to Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ. This means He did not send those people to hell to be condemned. So this would include the human garbage that He took out during the time of Noah that He didn't condemn to hell. He pardoned all of them to demonstrate His righteousness.

We Read in Scripture:

23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. 25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus. Romans 3:23-26 NLT

 

The god religion have to kowtow to their evil god.

Those religions who seek knowledge and wisdom are not brain hampered by fear of not agreeing with their genocidal god.

I like to disagree with evil Christians.

Regards
DL

 

Do not murder is good.

Hate women and gays and think them inferior to men is evil.

Noah and Armageddon.

If you are too stupid to connect genocide to those, you are way too stupid for me.

Regards
DL

 

Mitt - You are the one who has a habit of intellecutal dishonesty and forked tongue.

The claim on the table is that YHWH is depicted as a xenophobic, genocidal flip flopping God with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics.

1) xenophobic - Israelites were not allowed to intermarry - supposed to keep their blood line "Pure"
2) genocidal - YHWH orderd the complete destruction of entire towns -- women - children - babies - fetuses.
3) Flip Flopper -Irrational - YHWH makes a law stating children are not to be killed for the sins of their parents - he then turns round and order the killing of Israelite children- babies - fetuses - beause of the sins of of their parents and/or others.

This is not mocking God - This is you trying to demonize the messenger. It is the Bible that says these things .. I am just telling you what the Bible says .. if you think the Bible is mocking God in saying these things .. Fine .. but don't blame me for what the Bible says.

"Blasphamy" - Telling you what the Bible says is not Blasphamy - You putting words in God's mouth is blasphamy .. something you contiuously do.

Once again you are projecting your failings onto others.. you need to stand up and take responsibility for your own actions - not try to blame others for them.

 

Why do you sing of Adam's sin being a happy fault?

He is not what you make him out to be.

Care to debate if he is good or evil?

Is genocide, homophobia and misogyny good?

Regards
DL

 

seems you have serious issues with your genocidial prick claims. google has my back!

but hating christains, mormons and jews is just a-ok with you!

 

What laughable nonsense .. Just because someone points out to you that the Bible depicts YHWH as a xenophobic, genocidal, irrational flip flopping God with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics .. does not mean this person hates Christians, Mormons, and Jews.

The flood is bad example though - and that was not YHWH.

 

Doesn't matter. That's the problem with an all powerful and all knowing creator God. Such a God is responsible for everything that happens, both because she allows it to happen when she could have prevented it, and because she created everything, knowing exactly how it would turn out.

Then who was it? There is another God in the Bible story other than YHWH who did the flood? The myth says whichever god did it, flooded the world and killed everyone but Noah and his immediate family. That's genocide.

And before anyone (Hi Mitt!) says all the humans were evil and deserved it, what of all those innocent animals God slaughtered? Oh right, God likes when we kill animals for him, and people too! He wanted a blood sacrifice (Jesus) in order to forgive man of sins.

Its a pretty immoral mythos no matter how you try to spin it.

Greatest I am said he hates Christians, Mormons, and Jews? I must have missed that post. Is this true, Greatest I am?

 

I bet you asked charles manson if he murdered anyone and when he told you no, to hell with all evidence to the contrary, you believed him! Just like the 'Is neoatheism a religion thread'. LMAO
over the top ridiculous nonsense! This is a comedy level post!

 

Well yeah! But sorry if I didn't make myself perfectly clear and you misunderstood me to mean everyone will be praising and worshipping Him for all eternity.

The unsaved of course won't be praising and worshipping Him for all eternity. They'll be doing something else obviously. Our Lord told us in Scripture there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for the unsaved.

We Read in Scripture:

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

The Narrow Door

22 Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he went, always pressing on toward Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, “Lord, will only a few be saved?”

He replied, 24 “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. 25 When the master of the house has locked the door, it will be too late. You will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Lord, open the door for us!’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ 26 Then you will say, ‘But we ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 And he will reply, ‘I tell you, I don’t know you or where you come from. Get away from me, all you who do evil.’

28 “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out. 29 And people will come from all over the world—from east and west, north and south—to take their places in the Kingdom of God. 30 And note this: Some who seem least important now will be the greatest then, and some who are the greatest now will be least important then.” Luke 13:22-30 NLT

But yeah the saved will be praising and worshipping Him for all eternity! Our Lord told us in Scripture what it's like to be in the Kingdom of Heaven.

We Read in Scripture:

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

Parables of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl

44 “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a treasure that a man discovered hidden in a field. In his excitement, he hid it again and sold everything he owned to get enough money to buy the field.

45 “Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a merchant on the lookout for choice pearls. 46 When he discovered a pearl of great value, he sold everything he owned and bought it! Matthew 13:44-46 NLT

So yes indeed for the saved after having being told what The Kingdom of Heaven is like from the Parables that Our Lord told us about as written in Scripture you can be 100% sure the saved will be praising and worshipping Our Creator Almighty God for all eternity!

Then you can add what He promised us in that there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain, all these things are gone forever.

We Read in Scripture:

4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.” Revelation 21:4 NLT

 

Quit cherry picking sentences from posts - taking them way out of context - and spouting gibberish.

As stated by yourself previously - you have no idea if anyone will be worshiping and praising anyong for all eternity .. so as is not so unusual - you are contradicting yourself.

What is laughable is your claim that "Sola Fide" gets you "saved" a free pass through the pearly gates.

And you have yet to give me the name of your Lord . who are you talking about in scripture ? are you embarassed about the God you worship?

 

I don't engage in libel on your say so, sorry.

 

Gibberish?...lol don't you know that's your middle name?...gifte gibberish done...lol You asked me a question and so I answered it, you had asked me, "and deserving of praise and worship for all eternity ?"

See that question mark after the word eternity...well it implies you are asking me a question and I answered it as eloquently as I could. What...you don't like my answer?...tough gibberish!...lol

 

I can readily attest, I don't commit the unforgivable sin. Being that I believe, have faith, have love, have trust in Our Creator Almighty God, who is the Christian God, the Trinity, The Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

It is people like you, the unbelievers who daily commit the unforgivable sin being that you all don't believe, don't have faith, don't have love, don't have trust in Our Creator Almighty God, who is the Christian God, the Trinity, The Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Mocking Him calling Him "Evil Guy" , "xenophobic flip flopping genocidal maniac with the most petty and nasty human characteristics...aka YHWH" is not at all displaying any kind of praise and love towards Him...that's for sure.

It's actually displaying ridicule, contempt and hatred towards Him. It is also blasphemy which is defined as defiant irreverence because you are attributing some evil to Him that is not in accord with His morally perfect holy character. This is the sort of things unbelievers do.

That's what you've done. Your post below proves it.

In closing up, the unpardonable sin is the state of continued unbelief.There is no pardon, either in this age or in the age to come, for a person who rejects the Spirit’s promptings to trust in Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ and then dies in unbelief.

We Read in Scripture:

36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. John 3:36 ESV

 

Mitt - I have not called your God YHWH any of the above - in bold. That is what the Bible says about YHWH .. not me. I do not believe God to be like the nasty depiction in the OT ... it is you that claims to believe this depiction - in claiming that the whole Bible is the literal word of God.

Second - You don't know what the unforgivable sin is - it is not "saying nasty things against YHWH) - but even if I was doing that -t would not be the unforgivable sin ..

For as we learn from Scripture A sin against the Father can be forgiven - as with a sin against the Son .. but it is the one who commits the unforgivable sin - putting words in God's mouth - supplanting the Logos - who spoke God's word via the Holy Spirit who can never be forgiven.

You are not the deliverer of God's word - yet you pretend to be - making claims about who will go to hell . or heaven - as if you were the judge.

but as we Read in Scripture - Judge Not - lest you be Judged. You are not the Judge - nor Jury - but you sure like to act the part of the executioner Judge and Jury all in one .. Did Jesus give you his Crown ?

Turn from this dark path - and seek the light. Do not run from Jesus into the arms of idol Martin Luther - Run from the Truth of the words of Jesus -hoping to find solace in Paul. If you wish to keep and learn from Pauline Scripture - even the Pseudepigrapha you love to quote so much - do so, but do not supplant the words of Jesus with Pauline Scripture - trying to interpret Jesus through Paul - a fellow who never knew Jesus - rather than trying to figure Paul out through Jesus.

Your Priorities are backwards mate - Now go and learn ..