Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

This one believes he "knows". He's a funny guy.

 

Mitt ... where have you been ! The Forum is not the same without your not so subtle logical fallacy and irrational arguments.

Mitt - you do not know for sure if there even is a God .... never mind know how smart that God is.

I believe there is a God and believe that this God is smart. Belief however, is not proof of God.

It is because I believe in the intelligence of God that I am not able to believe that the OT gives a correct description of God. A genocidal, irrational, flip flopping God with the most petty and nasty of human emotions and characteristics.

 

You're speculating that people who go to heaven will spend eternity naked. That doesn't seem to be the case when you read/understand Scripture especially in the Book of Revelation.

We see that Angelic beings and those who have been redeemed are described in the Bible as wearing some kind of garments.

Scripture does tell us that Adam and Eve were naked before they sinned, but their nakedness was indicative of their sinlessness and innocence but we have never been in a sinless state and so when we get to heaven we will be clothed and not naked.

And your last question, "does God appear to people in their dreams naked as well?" in my view is nonsensical, that's all I'll say about it.

 

Doesn't Yahweh wear a robe?

Isaiah 6:1-3 (NKJV) =
"In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple. 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts;
The whole earth is full of His glory!”

 

Do you think there is porn in heaven ?

 

A snake god?...lol Sorry but your question is so so incoherently ludicrous.

I'm of the Christian faith, so what other faith are you referring to?

 

If there are no other Gods why did Yahweh say that there are other Gods?

 

What is ludicrous is you cherry picking one sentence out of a long post to someone else in 2013.

What is also ludicrous is you saying that my exclamation "who knows" was incoherent and ludicrous without stating "why".

Sitting in the peanut gallery throwing out insults is not an argument for much.

 

Just because there are many denominations of Christianity that doesn't mean there are many different Bibles. Again there is only one Bible that speaks, "The Word of God".

These denominations can be traced back to the Protestant Reformation, the movement to "reform" the Roman Catholic Church during the 16th century. The "Bible" itself has never been reformed, especially in the sense that it has always proclaimed Jesus is mankind's Lord Savior. It is still the same Bible that speaks, "The Word of God"

Now if you want to discuss the many denominations that's a differnt subject matter apart from the one and only "Bible".

Sorry, but you're wrong...they don't claim the same God. Christians believe Jesus Christ is Lord Savior for everyone...all of mankind, whereas those other two religions don't hold that belief, therefore they can't be claiming/worshipping the same God.

Again you're wrong. The Bible does indeed make reference to thick clouds. Here let me bring up those written words from Scripture.

4 "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth!....9 "When I made a cloud its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band,"... Job 38:4, 9 New American Standard (NAS)

4 "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?...9 "and as I clothed it with clouds and wrapped it in thick darkness?" Job 38:4, 9 New Living Translation (NLT)

The message is basically saying that when God created the earth, the earth was dark because He surrounded it with thick clouds. This darkness is mentioned in Genesis 1:2 NLT which states,

"The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters."

 

Hey Mitt! Thought the cows ate you. Hope you've been well.

 

Hi Gawd, I've been well thank you, how bout you? I'm back to continue where I left off. Catch you later dude!

 

On the eve of a historic hurricane slamming into Florida I have to ask a simple question. Why does God hate the people of Florida?

 

Not just Florida ... Texas too. God is punishing the religious right for electing False Prophet Trump and the evil Pence Demon.

 

Could be, but on the other hand maybe he simply wanted to take out the sodomites in Key West and the rest of the State was simply collateral damage.

 

Sodomites in Key West ? Say it isn't so.

 

Of course to the believers there would be ambiguity. Did God want to chastise Florida or was it the Devil? Maybe it was the Devil that wanted to punish a red State for supporting Trump.

As an example of this ambiguity Second Samuel 24:1 says, “Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, ‘Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.’”

Whereas 1 Chronicles 21:1 state, “Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel."

 

Good find.

 

I have a question.

What exactly WOULD Jesus Do?

 

God hates sin (evil). Tragedies cause many people to question God’s goodness. Funny how some give God credit for bad weather but they never give Him credit for good weather.

God created the whole universe and the laws of nature. Most natural disasters are a result of these laws at work.

A tsunami is caused by an underwater earthquake. Earthquakes are the result of the earth’s plate structure shifting. Tornados, typhoons and hurricanes, are the results of divergent weather patterns colliding...hot air colliding with cold air.

In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts, God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on creation.

We live in a fallen world...a world of "frustration" and "decay." Ever since the event in the Garden of Eden...the fall of humanity into sin had effects on everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is subject to "frustration" and "decay." Sin is the ultimate cause of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and suffering.

We read in Scripture:

"We love each other because he loved us first. If someone says, "I love God," but hates a fellow believer, that person is a liar; for if we don’t love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we cannot see? ---1 John 4:19-20 NLT

"In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike." ---Matthew 5:45 NLT

"All who fear the Lord will hate evil. Therefore, I hate pride and arrogance, corruption and perverse speech." ---Proverbs 8:13 NLT

16 "For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

18 "There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20 All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21 But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants." ---John 3:16-21 NLT

 

If God hates sin then why did he create it ? Rare is the person who credit's God for bad weather and not for good. More oft are those who credit God for good things but ignore the bad in raging hypocrisy.

This is a silly story that is full of fallacy and lack of objectivity. Suppose a deity is responsible for the Laws of the Universe. I am perfectly fine with this claim and in fact believe that the laws may well be a function of the hand of God - so to speak.

Clearly God then new that the laws of creation would lead to what you call sin. The idea that an all knowing all wize God would put two innocent beings (not knowing of good or evil) in the ring with the greatest deceiver the world has known.. a deceiver with God like powers ... and not realize who the winner would be ... is patent nonsense.

Sin is then a creation of God .. a creation that has a purpose. The story of Adam and Eve in the Garden is allegory in any case.

Then you go on some tangent that does not make any sense. "We live in a fallen world" - ever since the garden of Eden.

If one goes by the Bible this may have some merit but creates a whole lot of problems. God says that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart were only evil all the time and that he regrets making humans.

Here we have God admitting his mistake - Good on God for that but ... this contradict the all knowing God theory. The problems compound from here.

God then kills all of these evil humans that he created except he spares a few of these same evil humans Noah, sons and wives. What ... did God think these humans (offspring of Noah and sons) were going to turn out any differently ? This is beyond gullible. Why bother killing a bunch of evil humans ... because they are evil ... if you know that the new crop are going to be just as evil ?

A much more rational way to look at things - keeping your assumption that the laws of the universe is the hand of God - is to look at the earth as a bit of an experiment. Perhaps there are numerous others. God perhaps checks in on this experiment from time to time to see how the experiment is turning out but, does not meddle in that experiment (as this would defeat the purpose of the experiment).

Clearly if God wanted humans to worship him and follow some Godly rules .. God would stop by from time to time. No such luck.

 

I don't see what I've said is giving you the impression I'm telling you to dismiss what you've said. The point I made was to say there is no such thing as different versions of "The Word of God".

 

How about cutting out most of your rhetoric and focus just on the universe and it's creation. We need not bring up worship for instance. We need not try to dissect Genesis and the discussion of Adam and Eve. GOD plain exists. Were there no books of any sort discussing GOD, he still exists.

Why do I claim this? The earth exists. The universe exists.

As you know, scientists allege matter can not be created nor destroyed.

That is some magic trick. I say GOD causes this and GOD is behind creation.

And if your soul cant' be created nor destroyed, GOD has some huge plans for you once you pass this test.

 

As you know, scientists allege matter can not be created nor destroyed.

Scientists have alleged many things in the past many of which have proved wrong.
You say God exists. You could be proved wrong.

 

No he can't be proven wrong, as a matter of fact no one can prove/disprove God's existence.

 

God didn't create sin, sin is evil, that's why He hates it.