Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

YEP, 2 of em. Deep? Worth some fun entertainment, yep.

 

Hmmmm...

As a student of theology myself I must interject that one: this poster clearly follows the teachings of his faith "do not seek to be teachers in great numbers for you will all stumble in many ways" James...somewhere in there.... in that he "offers" his training to explain...not to convert of presume to sway. but merely clears up so many stupid and boring myths about the Bible...

You can have an attitude of resistance, reject without listening if you like. But, one must remember the words of a colleague of the world's first noted atheist, Herbert Spencer: "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt without prior investigation."

No doubt that principle is alive and well here.

 

If there is a God, why would it be the christian God, some have a hard time believing it is the same God as the mulims. Even though they are, unless God changed at the writing of the NT. Which, the actions of God surely has.
As the 3 abrahamic religions do, they limit who can join in the eternal paradise if one doesn't believe the dogma they each present.

So, why does God, if one exists, have to be the limiting God and not an entity that likes/loves his entire creation, just as he saw how they'd end up. If God is omni-everything.

 

Not mine.

 

That's exactly what the Bible says in Wisdom 14:15-16 (CEB) = [SUP]"15 [/SUP]Imagine a father overcome with grief at the untimely death of his child. In his grief, he makes an image of the child. The person who was once a corpse he now honors as a god. He passes it on to those under his authority, along with certain mysteries and special ceremonies. [SUP]16 [/SUP]As time goes by, his godless custom becomes tradition. Eventually, his custom becomes law, and rulers order the people to worship these carved images."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Wisdom 14&version=CEB

 

Of course it is, it is documented. Oh maybe you have memory problems...eh? Well you know it was posted on Feb 23 of this year and so I understand it was so long ago you can't remember you posted that...oh well it is what it is.

 

Is it God that limits or religion?

Tell me, knowing human nature is it possible that corrupt people would misuse man's natural desire for faith for their own selfish ends?

The world is always so, so ready to believe that of Christiantity, and its true sometimes, but never Islam or Buddhism.

And why is it people always interject other fathers when objecting to Christianity as though the Christian belief system somehow affects the thinking of other faiths?

There is no limit to God, only those placed on Him by man.....and certainly rejecting the possibility of His existence is kind of the biggest limitation you can have isn't it?

Have you ever given God a chance? Say, OK I will try to live this way for a year and see if my life gets better? Ever thought of actually reading and studying the Bible and learning what it means?

Was there really a whale or is it a metaphor for all of us in life

What did Jesus mean when he said "Father, Father, why have you forsaken me?" and what does it mean to all of us?

Is your view Jesus as a strict theologian or a care giver? And what was it about the prince of Peace and that WHIP He used? What does that mean in the context of "these things I do, you shall do likewise?"

It is never the case of someone well versed in these things rejecting God for some reason...


You see, I was an atheist once. Then I started reading that book.....

Try it....or are you afraid of something?


Yeah, I'm a Christian who uses the word (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

What in blue blazes does that mean. "We are interested to learn....... that is why..... so much to share and teach"?
Incoherent choice of words.

 

Don't be so quick to judge.
I was baptized, confirmed, and attended Lutheran (Missouri synod) church, probably longer than you've been a born again.

And you'd be wrong about you Islam and buddah conclusion as well.
You're just seeing more about christianity, as that is the majority in this country and on the forum.
I don't object to christianity, I just don't believe, anymore, that it is the only path.

 

Anyone who thinks there really was a world wide flood is talking about a "god" who does not exist.

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What exzactly do you expect? Wisdom? Something to teach?

 

For a guy so wise in the nature of reality, he sure cant figure out how to use the quote function.

 

Quote Posted by Akhlut on pg. 45 #443 of Part 3

Thus, YHWH does not really love us, or it would do all in its power to try and stop people from going to Hell.
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You are wrong!...He really does love us, if He didn't then none of us would be saved...that's right every single one of us would be doomed because it's a fact we are all sinners and sinners deserve punishment.

Scripture tells us, "For God loved the world so much that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NLT

So there it is, anyone who gets sent to hell it's from their own choosing not God's. God did His part and so now we need to do our part...choose where we want to spend eternity.

I, myself, choose to be with God in His Kingdom of Heaven for all eternity!

 

A WanRen specialty.

 

How long you claim to have been a Christian is meaningless.

I can tell from your posts you never embraced it, never studied at the theological level.

And if you so satisfied with the decision that there is no God how come you feel it necessary to so vigorously defend your position in forums like this?

You say I'm mistaken and know nothing, but avoid approaching the debate directly, claim I'm wrong about Islam and Buddhism without even offering a citation.
No, I have no respect for your claimed knowledge level.


If you were so convinced you have found the one and only truth, how come you are so moved by others faith you have to try to make them like you.

 

That's a non-response. Did you read my post?

 

A post absolutely pregnant with assumption.

 

Reread my posts. Then answer. Especially the 1st one. I never claimed there is no God. Just not limited to the God of abraham.

I claim to have the one and only truth? Reread my post a dozen times. I claim no truth. That is religions job. As you seem to have fallen into one of them.
So, respect is mutual.

And what is typed in words among total strangers, shows you really have no real life clue. You have no idea where one was at any point in one's life in regards to anything.

What about islam and buddah do you want to debate. I have very little knowledge outside of christianity. Which is why I don't hold christianity as the absolute truth.

You say your a student of theology. What theology do you study and how does that make you "the" expert, and judge.

 

I did, and I guess I focused on this.

I took it to mean, christianity is the logical choice, when you said easier. Which really isn't what was implied, but assumed since you used the word christianity. Because, IMO, it can mean any of the 3 abrahamic religions, or if not in english, any religion one wants to believe.
Because, if there is a God, the world is open to what this God is, and christianity is but one of those choice. Not easier, just an option. As someone in the far east or mid east, or other parts of the world wouldn't think christianity as the "easier" choice. Whatever easier means in the context.
Why would the case for christianity be any easier than the other 2 abrahamic religions or some unrelated abrahamic religion? Which languaee is"God"? And what does it mean? Creator of universe? Creator of all?

 

Let me continue on with another good reason on becoming a Christian. In my last response I just gave you one good reason which was the teachings of Jesus.

Another good reason on becoming a Christian is because of the resurrection of Jesus. History tells us that Roman soldiers crucified thousands of people. But only one of them has a following today. Why is that?

Perhaps because only Jesus was resurrected. The resurrection of Jesus was the main message of the early church, according to the book of Acts. This is what the early disciples testified about and preached about. "God raised Jesus from the dead, and we are all witnesses of this." Acts 2:32 NLT

With this simple message, Christianity grew rapidly. The Apostle Paul said, "He was seen by Peter and then by the Twelve. After that, He was seen by more than 500 of His followers." 1 Corinthians 15:5-6 NLT

Thousands were convinced as the early apostles risked their lives to tell what they believed.

No other explanation makes sense. If Jesus' body had remained in the tomb, the religious leaders would have used it to stop the message. Nor would it make any sense for the disciples to steal the body, then risk their lives for the next 30 years preaching that he was alive, without any of them ever betraying the secret. Ordinary fishermen do not risk their lives to preach something they know to be false.

Nor does it make sense that the disciples had hallucinations. Dozens of people do not have identical dreams, all substantiated by an empty tomb. The disciples were not deceived, nor were they deceivers. They preached that Jesus had been raised from the dead and had now gone into heaven to be at the right hand of God.

On this testimony, preached by ordinary people with an extraordinary boldness, thousands more believed. Even by first-century standards, it was a strange story, but they accepted it. And if God had raised this man from the dead, then God must have approved of what He taught....even His claims to be the only route to salvation.