Putin: The U.S. World Order has Failed

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  1. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Actually I have studied moth monsters history in depth, I said he is a Wannabe, not that he is one.
     
  2. moon

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    Ah. Leviathan lepidopterology. Fascinating science, I'm sure, but not suitable as a tool for appraising Putin, obviously.
     
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    Remember that nut job, Pat Robertson? He publicly called for the assassination of Chavez. It's now become the norm within certain segments of U.S society to call for the assassination of Heads' of State.
     
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    Will Europe enjoy Putin's world order?
     
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    Calls for violence have no place on political debate forums. There ought to a rule against it. Calls to assassinate a Head of State should be taken very seriously.
     
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    What are you? Mossad ?


     
  7. moon

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    Do you want Putin assassinated because your are ' MOSSAD ' or is it just a personal project ?
     
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    I agree. I think it's an outrage that members be allowed without sanction to promote killing on forums like this - absolutely outrageous.
     
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    Yep, if according to the rules of this forum even asking the "wrong" questions is an infraction, then the open instigation to murder should be taken seriously.
     
  10. Pronin24

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    The world order is changing. The only friend of Israel - the USA, is weakening its grip over the international events, loosing money and getting less reluctant to pay for aggression and defense of Israel. What you going to do? Mossad should have been known, but Netanyahu would not listen. Fighting by army of USA is easy.
     
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    The political quote: 'The U.S. World Order has Failed' is triggering a reaction (politics is a revolutionary weapon), so more fight and movement in American politics and thus more fight and movement in the voter.
    This revolutionary process will eventually lead to a New World Order (also when you want try to stop this revolutionary process when you start to see it, because resistance (opposition) will lead to an anti-nwo-movement, and the real 'anti-nwo-movement' is no movement or political party or organisation at all (when you don't fight or move you are not part of the neverending story, you are part of nothing, of the 'old' world, 'old' means freedom)
    By stopping political fight, not join a political party, nor a revolutionary pro or contra movement.
    Russian and Chinese people should do the same, because if you don't stop your political (invisible revolutionary) fight or movement as a group, you become part of what is currently politically going on in Belgium, France and in many other European and other countries in the world.
    You'll end up in the revolutionary group 'right / far right' or end up in the revolutionary group 'opposition' (or in opposition of that political fight between the flanks or a left-right battle) Don't oppose Putin as well (is counterproductive), opposition lead to 'war', one side will 'win', when you are part of the winning side, you will eventually be part of history, when you are part of (new) history, you have failed.
     
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    I guarantee Russians say the same about America.
     
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    Ask yourself a question; are your warmongering Presidents and your curious foreign policy any better? How's 'democracy' doing in Iraq these days? Should we add Bush, Cheney and your own hero, Nutteryahoo, to the list of war criminals who should face trial?
     
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    America is creating too many enemies at once.
    Yes, America has the military power but it no longer has the influence, or at least it's losing it piece by piece.
    If you declare so many massive countries to be enemies and impose sanctions, they're going to give you the finger and get together to help each other.
    As China and partners grow, I can see more countries joining their alliance and scrapping the dollar as standard trading currency.
    That'll do America a lot of harm.
     
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    Trial ? The stated preference by 'Face, Your' is a bullet through the head.
     
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    Good post!

    America is not a meritocracy any more, low-IQ people are now in leading positions there (due to affirmative actions in American academia), and these stupid people do not have the capacity to understand what they are doing.

    The leading elite of Russia and China is today more intelligent than the leading elite in the USA and other western countries, and that is fatal for the West.
     
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    Good that is settled. So would you like me to ask if you, Rammstein Moon, or Trout are Nazis, anti-semites, Russian operatives?

    What would your reaction be?

    Asking this person if he was Mossad was off topic and an attempt to insult and bait him.

    Stick to the topic can you do that?

    The alleged topic is whether the US world order has failed. The very question poses an assumption by the questioner that there was a US world order and it was used as a pretext to invite anti American comments. You or anyone else making backhanded references to Mossad and Israel won't change that.
     
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    The above words are precisely an example of using this thread as a pretext to engage in anti American comments. Your opinion is not based on anything objective -its simply thrown out by you as if its a fact.

    Go on provide the psychometric statistics you have to prove the above.

    This is why Art know what takes you seriously. You throw out these indirect insults posed as factual statements with zero proof. They do not establish anything other than what your biases are and how you try degrade an entire nation's people as stupid.
     
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    I would like to take this time and opportunity to ask leaders of States external to the US, to simply goad our elected representatives to bear true witness to our own laws, simply for the sake of morals and a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge.
     
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    The person' comment you address with the above question was his opinion. Your question was no more appropriate than if I asked you whether you are an agent of Putin or a neo Nazi operative.

    If you can't debate his opinions then don't but asking him questions designed to indirectly insult him and Israel does not prove any point.

    The fact is, Putin orchestrated an invasion of the Ukraine as he did in Georgia and is now doing the same in Moldova.

    That has nothing to do with Mossad, and the fact that you clearly favour what Putin is doing does not make me or anyone else a Mossad agent because we believe Putin is a recycled Stalin. Many world leaders have stated his phony creation of citizen disturbance in the Ukraine was no different than
    what Hitler did in the Sudetenland. That didn't make those critics Mossad either.

    What you have done in your comments is demonstrate your concept of world politics as blaming everything bad on Israel and the US and ignore what Russia or China does. We all got it. So did Art who jumped on your comment and the fact he did speaks volume as to where both your sentiments are at.

    You want to use this thread as an anti US bashing exercise and hey throw in Israel while you are at it.
     
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    Could you please translate that? I am sorry I do not understand what you have written.
     
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    I totally agree with this. When we vote for a new president, we have to choose a lesser evil, alternatives are often horrible. Our comedians have a lot of material to lough at. However, seriously, it does not change the pattern. The very system does not allow intelligent person to get elected to a higher post.
     
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    why am i not surprised since it merely has to do with morals.
     
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    This is why the anti Obama lot are useless.
    They moan on about pointless crap such as his birth certificate, but totally miss what a dog's breakfast he's making of foreign relations.
    Low IQ people are spread across the political spectrum.
     
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    You should educate yourself and read more books, like these books:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Grand-Chessboard-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

    http://www.amazon.com/The-End-History-Last-Man/dp/0743284550
     

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