Putin: The U.S. World Order has Failed

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  1. zmajce77

    zmajce77 Member

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    in the meantime....
    http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2014&mm=05&dd=29&nav_category=78&nav_id=854212

    Sorry,it's on serbian language.It's say :
    "Soyuz rocket is in accordance with the plan launched around 22:00 Central European Time and should be connected to the space station six hours later. Rid Vajzmen crew consists of NASA, Russian cosmonaut Max Surajev and German Alexander Gerst from the European Space Agency. three of them would International Space Station should spend the next six months. "

    So in Ukraine people dieing,western media said Putin is evil,and US,EU and Russia send cosmonauts in space.wow :)
     
  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Link please? :please:
     
  3. dreamin'gal

    dreamin'gal New Member

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    USA still rule the world, but kind of falling

    Putin Russia dont have the power to rule the world.

    They have enough power to against the control of USA though
     
  4. Face. Your

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    Spare me the fascist propaganda, he Serbs perpetrated genocide against the Albanians and in the case of the Srebrenica massacre the ICJ ruled that it constituted genocide, I have provided you with numerous citations to Serbian war crimes during the Yugoslav wars including genocide and mass rape, and listed numerous massacres of Croat, Bosniak,, and Albanian civilian men, women, and children targeted specifically and exclusively because of their ethnicity, that is genocide anyway you slice it.

    Notable massacres against Croats:


    Baćin massacre
    Bruška massacre
    Dalj massacre (led by notorious war criminal Arkan)
    Erdut massacre
    Lovas massacre
    Saborsko massacre
    Široka Kula massacre
    Škabrnja massacre
    Voćin massacre
    Vukovar massacre

    There were also prison camps, where Croatian prisoners of war and civilians were kept by Serbian authorities.

    Begejci camp (Logor Begejci) in Begejci near Zrenjanin, Serbia.
    Sremska Mitrovica camp in Sremska Mitrovica, Serbia.
    Stajićevo camp (Logor Stajićevo) in Stajićevo near Zrenjanin.


    Against Bosniaks/Albanians during the Bosnian War:


    Ahatovići massacre
    Bijeljina massacre
    Doboj massacre
    Foča massacres
    Korićani Cliffs massacre
    Prijedor massacre
    Višegrad massacre
    Tuzla Massacre
    Paklenik Massacre
    Markale massacres
    Srebrenica massacre
    Srebrenica Children Massacre
    Zvornik massacre
    Siege of Bihać
    Siege of Goražde
    Siege of Sarajevo

    There were several concentration and prison camps in Bosnia, run by Serbs:

    Omarska camp
    Keraterm camp
    Manjača camp
    Trnopolje camp
    Uzamnica camp
    Vilina Vlas

    The International Court of Justice confirmed the ICTY judgment that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide:

    The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling within Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.[39]


    Against Albanians during Kosovo war:


    Suva Reka massacre — 48 Albanian civilians victims, among them many children.[42]
    Račak massacre — 45 Albanians villagers were murdered by Serb forces.[43]
    Podujevo massacre - 19 Albanian civilians, including women, children and the elderly, killed by Serb paramilitary.[44]
    Massacre at Velika Kruša — according to the Court, Serbian special police units murdered 42 persons.[45] There is also allegetions of females mass raped.[46]
    Izbica massacre — Serbian forces killed about 120 Albanian civilians.[47]
    Drenica massacre — there were 29 identified corpses of massacre, committed by Serbian law enforcement forces.[48]
    Gornje Obrinje massacre - 18 bodies were found,[49] but more people slaughtered.[50]
    Cuska massacre — 41 known victims.[51]
    Bela Crkva massacre — 62 known victims[52]
    Orahovac massacre — from 50 to more than 200 ethnic Albanian civilians victims[53]
    Dubrava Prison massacre — Serbian prison guards killed more than 70 Albanian prisoners.[54]
    Ćuška massacre near Peć on May 14, 1999 attributed to the Šakali

    Goran Stoparić, ex-member of Special Anti-terrorist Unit (SAJ), speculating about motives behind Podujevo massacre, said:

    "In my opinion, the only motive was the fact that the victims were Albanians, and perhaps because of some hidden immaturity or sickness of mind on their part. They would probably have killed them had they been Bosnians or Croats. But it is certain that they were killed because they were not Serbs".[55]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_the_Yugoslav_Wars#War_crimes

    IMHO not enough Serbs have been brought before the Hague for their genocidal ways.
     
  5. Face. Your

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    MOD EDIT - RULE 2 Now in between your support for fascist regimes and imperialistic expansionism through military conquest I suggest your pick up a copy of hooked on phonics because I literally just wrote that AQ had a seat on the Taliban's ministry of defense and formed divisions of their military including the 055 brigade.

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,181591,00.html

    Stop parroting fascist propaganda and get educated.

    MOD EDIT - RULE 2

    2. Authorizes Member States co-operating with the Government of Kuwait, unless Iraq on or before 15 January 1991 fully implements, as set forth in paragraph 1 above, the above-mentioned resolutions, to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area;


    http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0678.htm

    Those subsequent resolutions would include the numerous prohibitions levied against your favored Baathist regime for sending helicopter gun ships to massacre civilians in the streets.


    I'm impressed that you clearly support territorial conquest through offensive military invasions, perhaps Israel should annex all of the settlements based on a referendum in which only Israelis could vote on, as you would clearly approve, MOD EDIT - RULE 2
     
  6. Giftedone

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    Payback is a biatch ... There were very few Croatians brought to justice for the Genocide against Orthodox and Jewish Serbians in WWII.

    The Pope should have been tried for warcrimes among others.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_clergy_involvement_with_the_Ustaše

    Ivan Šarić was the Roman Catholic Bishop of Sarajevo, who supported the Ustaša. His diocesan newspaper wrote:

    Many of the atrocities during the war in Yugoslavia could have been prevented if it were not for NATO.

    While we are on the topic. There is little difference between Crimea and Kosavo other than Russia Annexed one and NATO annexed the other.
     
  7. zmajce77

    zmajce77 Member

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    Just explore this for example,do your own reaserch.Other what you wrote is same s***t like Racak.....Just type in google and you will see what western doctors and politicans said about that...Nothing more to say....It's not the topic!
     
  8. Serfin' USA

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  9. Face. Your

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    The Serbs have been tried by their own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing courts and been found guilty of ethnic cleansing and the world court has found them guilty of genocide so spare me the disgusting fascist genocide denying propaganda.
     
  10. zmajce77

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    link! If You cant provide link for this ,it's mean that you are a lier....so give me a link!
     
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    Whilst we're speaking of helicopter gunships and civilians being massacred in the streets, perhaps a small reminder of the sterling work of your heroes is in order:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D3YY16HwlU
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Very shocking!

    If somebody supports these butchers, then he is a moral monster and is co-responsible for the crimes, committed against civilians.
     
  13. catalinacat

    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know nothing because all your assumptions are wrong. I am not on the 'right'. You are a partisan hack to go there. Putin should be admired. Did you want to go to war with Syria last year? Is that why you dismiss Putin so easily? Then according to you, you just be on the right because generally they are war hawks; oh wait, that's the left now, including Obama. He sent 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan right after he was elected.
     
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    How do you like this version?
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    Additionally the natural gas deposits in the Donetsk region were an object of keen interest first by Shell since 2007 and followed by Exxon since 2010. So the coup was nothing more than a premeditated hostile takeover of a resource rather than a spontaneous democratic/populist reaction by the four percenters to a corrupt, democratically elected regime. Why did Ukraine decide not to develop the new gas deposits in accordance with its national economic interests, but instead opted to have an American controlled company rake in profits selling the Ukranian gas to Ukrainian customers? Payoff for the $5 billion in aid to instigate democratic reforms? An arms deal? Now if Donetsk tries going federalist or independent again, NATO members can step in saying they have to protect their investment, citing some international law which could be in danger of violation regarding ownership/property rights. Then it is no longer Ukraine's internal affair. So even if the Kiev government did decide to brutally crack down on the Donetsk federalists causing Russians to intervene, Biden and Kerry are now entrenched economically, and they could use a hundred pretexts declaring how the Russian presence bides at their legal interests or the structural integrity of their company under such and such binding agreement with the Kiev authorities regarding free access to the resource and consumer market, requiring a less than limited assistance to the Kiev government.
     
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    How did we know the US "World Order" was going to "fail"?

    When all the Stupids elected things like the Rapist and the Kenyan. Stupids are as Stupids do, of course.
     
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    BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)! There's been one completely illegal war. That was when King Obama, Racist, Fascist and muslim Traitor, illegally gave material support to al qeada to depose Ghadaffy in Libya.

    Rodents ALWAYS play the moral equivalent card. It's the back face of the Race Card.

    It means nothing, since they don't have morals.
     
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    That is a great image !


    I think you will enjoy this video -- Putin is dressing down Le Estados Unidos, The Chose Ones, The Indispensable Nation, The Exceptional Nation, etc.

    Others will be like McCain, Lieberman, and Tzipi Livni that you see in the audience. Looking rather dour. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH0eHekt84g

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    I've seen that video. It ranks among the best political speeches of the modern era. Putin nails it, start to finish. See McCain squirm ...... priceless!!!!
     
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    I just found "fresh" news in MSNBC
    Nearly All Russian Troops on Ukraine Border Withdrawn: U.S. Officials





    By Jim Miklaszewski


    Nearly all Russian forces that had been staged along the border with Ukraine have been withdrawn and returned to their usual bases of operation, U.S. defense sources told NBC News.

    Only 2,000 of the estimated 40,000 Russian military forces that had been poised at the border now remain at the forward staging area. Russia has also withdrawn most of its heavy equipment, including tanks and attack helicopters.
    The United States had feared the large number of Russian forces within a few miles of the border made it possible for Russia to launch an invasion into Ukraine with practically “no warning,” and repeatedly demanded those forces be withdrawn to reduce regional tensions.

    This week, Ukrainians elected Petro Poroshenko as the country's president and Russia said it would respect the vote.


    Nothing about fighting in eastern Ukraine! Nothing about civilian casualties.
     
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    Bravo.
     
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    Putin is a threat to global security. The CIA must deal with him before the world goes into WW3.

    God bless America.
     
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    Clearly Blum's analysis passed you by. Either that, or you have been living in a cave for the past seven decades.
     
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    Haven't you always maitained that annexations are illegal and the occupying/annexing states are a threat to global security?
    Do you have any core principles at all?
     
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    America's post-war record in creating global chaos and instability is unsurpassed.
     

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