Putin: The U.S. World Order has Failed

When we are watching presidential campaign speeches and debates, it is like a comedy theater. Obama once answered question, if we could trust him: " Look at my alternatives..." Our media pays more attention to superficial features of candidates, such as dress, facial expression, "birth certificate", etc., but not to the substance. Something like a sporting event, "who won" the last debate?

 

interesting also the professor compares - Ancient Rome and modern capitalism
the text is well read and is clear and from the middle...
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.litmir.net%2Fbr%2F%3Fb%3D192474%26p%3D70

 

These people dilute their own words which defeats their purpose. Just like how EVERYBODY is a "terrorist"..

Because exaggerations are obvious, it actually undermines their point and persuasion attempt if there is one. Because if they said, Putin was at least as bloodthirsty as Saddam, one might think, okay, that's possible, maybe they look into it, whatever. But when they hear he's Hitler, they just tune out. Because we KNOW Putin never managed to kill millions of people. Therefore we automatically know that this person is being dishonest; we'll assume they are full of it.

It's like when Obama calls somebody a terrorist. That to me implies they're probably somebody who could easily be my friend. They're probably a journalist or environmentalist or something.

Plus it's quite juvenile too if you think about it.. Kinda like the only ones to misspell "Jews" on purpose are actually their supporters.

 

Interesting how he suggests a war crime in the same post he complains about war crime.

 

There are.. I once said, tongue-in-cheek obviously, not that I wanted or suggested, but that I wouldn't be upset, if Michelle Obama were to push Barack down the stairs, and I got penalty points for it.

 

No we do not!

 

The U.S. has not annexed any territory, the wars we engaged in were perfectly legal in that AQ was part and parcel to the Taliban government having a seat on their ministry of defense and forming brigades within their military and article 51 of the UN Charter grants every member state the right to self defense, in regards to Saddam he was in proven material breach of the UN Sanctions and every single solitary one of the hundreds of times he fired on Coalition aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone he committed a flagrant act of war.

Your attempt to draw a moral equivalence to ousting two of the most despotic regimes the world has ever seen and allowing UN monitored and certified free and fair elections to invading and annexing the territory of a liberal democracy by an authoritarian regime would be laughable if it were not so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgusting.

 

Childish brains - Obamabots, HIllary and now ignorant spoon fed Prince Charles.

This little nugget of truth is constantly put on ignore by the media and the Obamabots. The west did start the riots and yes, Biden's son, and Kerry's son's former roommate are still on the board of directors at Burisma, a Ukraine Oil Company. The good life of a senator's son.

 

Those sons do not mind to have fun from blood money in a foreign country. We are getting easily involved in new wars, no draft, business as usual.

 

Let me get this straight. The United States invades over 20 countries in the last century and it does not matter one bit, but Putin invades 2 countries in his 11 years in office (1999 - 2008; 2012 - present) and he's a fascist war criminal?

 

Are you talking about Bill Clinton? Isn't he the one who entered a civil war in Serbia in support of the KLA terrorists illegally, and then bombed Belgrade for seventy eight days on a pretext of genocide when there was no genocide? Definitely, he should be charged for war crimes.

One thing is certain though, you can't be talking about Putin since his troops had every legal right to be in Crimea, and the Crimean people voted for independence from the illegal government in Kiev, and to unite with Russia. But then again, black being projected as white, and white being projected as black seems to be commonplace with the pro 'Empire of Chaos' forum faction.

 

America has a world order?

I'd like seven billion Whoppers to go please.

That would be roughly $24 billion dollars.

Just a drop in the bucket considering NASA runs over $500 billion dollars.

Yeah, the US can afford to feed the world, for at least a tiny bit.

 

When did the Taliban attack America, remind us? The war against Iraq was based on lies. Would you like a few reminders of the lofty morals of your leaders? Neither country had attacked America, nor were they in any position to. Saddam was a deeply unpleasant character but was no threat to America. Neither are the Taliban.
Furthermore the "no fly zones" contained in UN 688 had no explicit authorisation or legality, but your outrage is noted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones
I'm also duly impressed with your faith in the UN on Iraq, whilst simultaneously expressing disdain for the organisation when it dares to pass Resolutions against Israel. No double standards there then...

 

Agree - that actually describes our government for the last several years- empire of chaos. Confuse the facts with misinformation.

 

Its very interesting, that US government never,never ever didnt admit one mistake.Even for Native Indians,as far as I know US didnt apologized.It was several years ago,something about that,but as I know that law didnt adopted.Maybe I'm wrong,correct me please if I am.

 

And if he worked closer with Putin, you'd call him a socialist traitor.

 

Don't ever assume what I could call him on anything, and besides that's what he is already! He would never work closely with Putin, he can't handle him. Putin is no puppet of the west.

 

I don't have to assume. I can go back and read your posts.

I'm just surprised at the right's sudden fascination with Putin. I guess it halfway makes sense considering his social policies are a lot like the far right here, and his machismo tends to appeal to the lowest common denominator here as much as it apparently does over there.

 

Quite simply put....Putin is in control of a weaker country with a much smaller portion of support or backing. Obama is in control of the most powerful and influential country the world has ever known, and even if a weak president has the upper hand in pretty much everything.

Putin can whine and complain all day....but cannot do anything about it.

 

Putin's star has been rising internationally for a while. The world saw him bring Iran to the table over its nuclear policy. He also brought Obama back from his ill-thought red line in Syria. Things like that tend to build prestige.

He is smart ........ very smart. Name another leader that has played Realpolitik better in modern times. He is also a populist that obviously puts his country first.

He's an odd mix. He understands global politics but is not a globalist. His populism and nationalism is a refreshing change to the aims of the world banking cabal. In many ways, he is a breath of fresh air.

It's really ironic that so many are seeing in Putin possibilities for a better future than with American 'exceptionalism. That should give Western leaders serious food for thought as to the course they are charting.

 

I think you've been watching too much Russia Today. The future isn't very bright for anyone in Russia other than its industrial oligarchs. Racial and ethnic minorities are a lot worse off in Russia than here as well.

 

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You're just dead wrong in presuming what I use for news sources.

Putin's popularity is at an all-time high in Russia with an approval rating of 80%.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/26/putins-approval-rating-hits-80-percent/

As for his standing on the world stage, it's downright myopic to not see how he has elevated himself well beyond the Western leaders.

 

I'm sure Putin is popular in Russia, but that's the nature of nationalism. It's the same song and dance regardless of the country.

I'm not sure what you mean by "elevated", but yeah, he's certainly gotten the world's attention. The EU is quickly figuring out that years of complacency in energy deals is biting them in the @$$ by trusting Russia.

 

Any wounds to the EU will be self-inflicted, though there is every reason to think that Russia wants to see business as usual, despite the senseless provocation by the West.