Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

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Do you believe that the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple will occur in...?

  1. Probably within a century or two!

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  2. Never, Bible prophecy is false and misleading.

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  3. Perhaps within decades, we truly are in a new age of spirituality!

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  4. Perhaps by the year 3030, three days/3000 years from the resurrection of Jesus!

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  5. I don't know enough about this subject to comment!

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  6. Hey, this is a good way to prove that God does not exist!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I began a discussion on a massive New Age community recently that has produced a response far more positive than I had expected!!!!!!


    https://www.facebook.com/groups/108413109365671/185132091693772/?notif_t=like
    Earth We Are One (group)
     
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    The problem with this thread is that it was never asked if someone believes the third temple will be built soon, which I believe it will. The Orthodox Jews have everything in place except for the temple...but it's not being mentioned for obvious reasons. There is digging going on underneath the temple of Omar, and the Muslims are panic stricken that it will collapse.

    As to what is going to happen, I like to follow Christian prophecies, especially Orthodox ones...though many of the 'so called' prophets are phony. I know Saint John Krondstadt had a vision showing the temple and the antichrist. I also came across a prophecy which said the antichrist will build the temple, but I don't know how that can be since he will only reign for three and a half years. I see it as more likely that it will be built before that.

    It has been prophecied by many that the antichrist will be elected as a world leader, and it seems the world is headed that way. Soros is certainly pushing for it. The antichrist will also be a spiritual leader who will try to unite all the world's religions with the belief that they are all one and the same. Frankly I see these things coming about with these New Age movements.

    My favorite prophet is the Serbian Mitar Tarabich. He predicted everything that occurred in Serbia in the last century. He mentions airplanes, another war, the holes in the ground that will be dug all over the earth for energy. Also how people will do what the numbers in the books tell them. Basically everyone will be profit oriented. He also mentions that one will not be able to tell who is a groom and who is the bride at a wedding, as well as infants not knowing who their grandparents are. Sound familiar?

    Some of the interpretations given for his prophecies are faulty though, like the mountains with three crosses is interpreted as nuclear shelters instead of monasteries. He is interesting...besides these prophecies give me more of an understanding of what's going on in the world than anything our newspapers tell us, so don't knock it. :bonk:
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!!! Awesome reply Jeanette!!!

    My question at this time is could a significant percentage of deeply religious and sincere people confuse the latter day Cyrus type political leader with the Anti-Christ?

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/atma...to-be-attained-by-a-christian/542252605859556

    Cyrus Consciousness to be attained by a Christian??????
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Tabernacle and the Temples were built for one purpose. To house the presence of God in the midst of his chosen people with the Ark of the Covenant. This was Jewish belief throughout the Oral Torah, until the exiles. David confirms this in his words to Saul after being pursued. Jews dying abroad would request their bodies be returned to Israel and God's land.
    After the exiles the new Temple simply became a focal point for the Jews as a nation. As far as I can ascertain Aarons direct descendants died out, thus the High Priesthood became obsolete. In Roman times the High Priest was chosen by the particular Roman Governor of the time. It passed from family to family, Pharisee to Sadducee. Not as God had required.
    Once the Jewish nation had dispersed the Temple was obsolete. God was everywhere.

    Much prophesy is down to the desires of individuals wishing for things to come to pass.
     
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    The 20th Century wailing wall is a part of the Roman Fortress Antonia.

    The temple at the time of Christ was Herod's temple, and he was an Edomite. Christ and His Roman Army destroyed that Babylonian temple and system of oppression. He cast it all into a bottomless pit. But Talmudized "Christians" resurrected it all, armed it, protected it, financed it and unleashed it upon mankind.

    The only temple that counts in the Gospel is the temple of the body of believers.

    Christ is not coming, He is Here and has never really left.

    Remember, it was the un-faithful servant that said in his heart, "My Master delayeth His coming."

    The New Jerusalem is Christian Israel where ever they are. They are His servants in many places around the world. America was supposed to be a New Jerusalem, but we rejected "nature's God" and are being cast out and trodden under the feet of men.
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    where do you get such insane lies?
     
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    Herbert W Armstrong (deceased) - World Church of God (now Grace Communion International, with slightly different views) - Radio evangelist and author of many controversial End Time prophecies.
    The drawing is by one of his followers, Ernest L Martin, and is also controversial.
     
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    Where does Ronstar get his dead end "thinking"? Answer, the Talmud.
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  9. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent post trevorw2539.....Yes......I can honestly state that I would not trade Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong and his dad Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong for any other possible combination of mentors.....As flawed as they were......I would no more trade those two than I would trade Robert Stewart TAte....for some other genetic father!!!!!!!!
     
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    Jeanette.... am I naïve to feel that perhaps UFO's could play a significant role in the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple complex????!!!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338698

    Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????



    I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:






    "What about beings from other planets, do you think they visit here?
    Yes I do. And I think those who have been permitted to cross over into our world have been doing so for a very long time now (for a very important purpose) as Divinely arranged by Heaven. Since my NDE, because of a few things I was shown, it is now my deep belief that some of the more phenomenal events depicted in the Old Testament (such as the Great flood of Noah, the parting of the Red Sea for Moses, the mass explosion of Sodom and Gomorrah, etc) are not only very true, but were moments in time which were orchestrated and performed by beings of a much higher order and intelligence than our ownwho may have volunteered their technology and understandings or even sent to help guide and shape a culture within humanity during a pressing time within its development and evolution." (Christian Andreason, chapter 2 of online book) http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoHE6P8gOk





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    This is a compilation of 6 UFO videos taken on the same night at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where a UFO was seen and filmed by several witnesses.
     
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    So then.... you feel that the predictions given in Ezekiel chapters 40 to 48 are not to occur over the coming decades or centuries????!!!
     
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    You're right. I think they are 'predictions' to encourage exiles in Babylon, where Ezekiel 'possibly' wrote this book. 'Prophecies' can be interpreted to fit virtually any situation. There are many opinions on where, and if, Ezekiel wrote this book. You will need to look them up. To avoid the accusation of leading you to books/sites sympathetic to my point of view I leave you to find your own.

    I am using the apostrophes '' to indicate doubt.

    Ezekiel - called by some 'the Father of Judaism' - realised, like Jeremiah, that the future of the 'nation' was with the post exiles. The second Temple would prove more important in the life of the 'Nation', than Solomons thus his emphasis on the Temple, priesthood (40-44).

    Scoggins writes

    Once again, then, we would seem to have the tripartite scheme which we have also found in other prophetic books, but which we have seen to be almost certainly the work of the redactors. So even in the apparently perfect Ezekiel we have signs of a redaction, and there are in fact many more indications: too often the chronology, which we have seen to be so exact, appears valid essentially for the verses which immediately follow the chronological note, but stops there (and it is worth noting that at this time, from the first tentative indications in Jeremiah, the prophetic oracles begin to be dated, a system left aside by Deutero-Isaiah and then taken up on a large scale by Haggai and Proto-Zechariah); there are a good many contradictions and repetitions, passages edited in the first and the third person, and so on.

    Sandmel says
    It (Ezekiel) is such a difficult book that I can think of nothing less rewarding for the untrained person than to try to read it in the King James Version without explanatory help.

    Another writer questions the Babylonian setting and puts the writing to about the 3rd century. The writer of Ezekiel probably sets it in the reign of Manasseh in the northern Kingdom. The reason being that some of the idolatry fits that era, before Josiah's reforming reign, and not after.
    A later editor revised a few dates and fits it into a Babylonian setting.

    Ezekiel has always been a controversial book, even to the Jews. Some of it contradicts the laws of the Torah.

    I very seldom study 'prophetical' books for the reason I stated. You can fit most into any situation you want.
     
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    Fascinating!!!!

    As you can see from the following writing... I have a very different view of the value of the Jewish and Christian scriptures!!!!!???


     
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    If in fact.... the predictions in Ezekiel were inspired.... and will be backed up by the true Jewish Messiah in his non physical form..... then the idea of a literal temple... being constructed over the coming two centuries or so..... would make sense out of so many seemingly conflicting predictions?????!!!!

    http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

     
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    So Howard Storm's light beings told him what you have quoted. Gabriel told Mohammed what Islam believes. Isaiah received a vision. Daniel received a vision. John received a vision. Most ancient religions were credited to 'god' giving the instructions to someone. Code of Hammurabi was given by Bel and Anu, gods, to Hammurabi according to him. People believe what they want to believe.
     
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    Each person who has a near death experience comes back down to reality in awe of what they saw and experienced. Many of them take a decade or more to even begin to get the courage to attempt to explain what happened to them. Then over decades the religious types figure out ways to twist the message so that it can be used to give them an advantage.

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html
     
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    Although I regard the rather sarcastic tone of the following as a "fly in the ointment" that could cause people to reject this article in its entirety.... I do believe that the author is making a number of important points that should be prayerfully considered.

    A second major error in the article is that the author is unaware of the scholarship of Mr. Tuvia Sagiv that indicates that the Dome of the Rock, the Temple of Solomon as well as the Al Aqsa Mosque could all fit perfectly on top of the existing Temple Mount??????!!!!!!

    You can find articles on the Tuvia Sagiv research here:................templemount.org/
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    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.messianic/-HtAE_J2FlM/-gvTks176vkJ

    The actual initials of the author of this article are C. C.:

     
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    The thing about building the third temple is that you must understand, the Ark of the Covenant "must" be reclaimed and returned to the Temple.
    Without the Ark there will be no Temple.
    Two things about that: 1. The location of the Ark is known and is available to see to select people. The Prophet Jeremiah knew that the Babylonians were coming to sack Jerusalem and destroy the Temple, he repeatedly warned the people, and got thrown in a well for his trouble. The king even tore up his prophesy that Baruch wrote for him. Jeremiah would not allow the Ark to fall into Babylonian hands, and he most certainly would not allow it to leave the Temple Mount - so he hid it. He dug into the wall a few feet -its about 10 feet thick], and deposited the Ark and some of the Temple treasures, then had a facestone cut and set in place over the opening. The Ark contained the rod of Aaron that "budded". That means the branch was growing. You can see the branch all grown thru the cracks and thru the wall today. All that greenery with whiteish blossoms that is growing out of the wall is the almond branch Rod of Aaron. What you don't know is that there is a walkway right behind that wall, and you can drill a hole in the backside of the wall and peek in there with an arthroscope.

    Building the Temple is no problem because it can be built right next to the dome of the rock mosque. If you leave out the court of the gentiles, which would make sense as the gentiles religion is "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit". It is what they do and who they are.
    Those gentile jesus satans are not going to be forgiven for being the false anointed ones and false prophets who blaspheme the Holy Spirit continually.
    Hell was created for the jesus satans because they and their religion is pure blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. they are the last days false anointed ones and false prophets that deceive the whole world, and Yahushua warned us not to be deceived by them.
    And oddly enough, they are the sowers of discord among the sons of Abraham. They call everybody an antichrist who doesn't love them.
    Proof of the presence of the Holy Spirit is love, power, and a sound mind. They lack all three.

    Those devils think they got it all figured out and can play God against himself. They think he has to do it their way.

    The problem is the jesus satans, when it comes to the temple, the mid east politics, and everything in between. Just because they stole the playbook and think they got God bound, doesn't make it or them true.
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you for this exceptional post bandlandsleprechaun!!!

    What do you personally think of my theory that the next major move for the English Coronation Stone will probably be to somewhere in Ireland?

    It was voluntarily moved back to Scotland in 1996.......... I believe it is beginning its path to Jerusalem...… and my strong suspicion is that the next stop will perhaps be Tara, Ireland.............
     
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    Then with the modern technology which can 'see' through walls we will soon find the Ark. :clapping:
     
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    If you are on Facebook you may enjoy this discussion thread:

    Canadian support for rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple Complex can alter Middle East political formula.
    https://apps.facebook.com/forumforpages/180898612019485/6d0e6b1a-c408-4589-b800-9cc294039ec0/0

     
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    Only fourteen months ago...... December 5, 2012.... if somebody had told me that I would soon no longer believe in the Virgin Birth of Rabbi Jesus/ Yeshua... I might have laughed..... but here I am...... I no longer believe in the Virgin Birth............... I don't miss this almost certainly false idea though.... it seems obvious that it was added to the Christian Bible..... The Apostle Paul seemed to be unaware of this idea!!!!!????

    http://www.thomastwin.com

     
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    Soros is just another scapegoat like the Koch brothers.

    Which new age movements? Seems to me they're mostly a bunch of irrational weirdos, although I do enjoy trying to control consciousness through meditation and psychedelic plants. Can lead to some pretty profound experiences.

    I can't see many new age movements who want to bring about the antichrist lol. Even most Satanists don't actually believe he's a real being - they admire the character.
     
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    One can only judge a tree by the fruit it bears. We can see the fruits of Mohamed in Islam, as well as the fruits of the others you mentioned. By contrast we see the fruits of Moses in the laws he gave us, and the ultimate fruits of Jesus, through Christianity's civilizing aspect in the world. :pray:
     
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    An antichrist is anyone or anything going against the teachings of Christianity. Our world, with its emphasis on worldly and secular gains and achievements is considered the 'spirit of the antichrist'. Whether he will be a person or not, we do not know for sure. He may be a combination of people, or he may not be. What I do know is that all the tools are now in place for the 'culmination' of all evil, regardless of whether he is one person or not.

    Today it is possible to control every person in the world through our computers, as well as the reason to do so because of terrorism and credit card theft. All these things would have been unheard of even one hundred years ago, which of course amazes me at how these things could have been known two millenniums ago?
    :confuse:
     
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