Reuters Russia calls U.S. an adversary, warns its warships to avoid Crimea

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  1. Durandal

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    Which tribes of European Christendom are presently being oppressed/genocided? Seems to me most of the slaughtering these days is taking place in African and Middle Eastern countries, unless maybe you're referring to America's bloodbath due to our absurd lack of gun control.
     
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    As usual, you are clueless.

    The REAL leader I referenced in my last post would understand exactly what I posted.

    Obviously, YOU are NOT him!

    What is happening now to all tribes of Aryan Christendom is similar to the Russian "time of troubles" when there was no Tsar to rule and protect the Rus. The Bible refers to an end of the age "time of trouble" when Michael our Prince stands up against the oppressors/destroyers of God's people... just like Michael Romanov stood up for the Rus!

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  3. Durandal

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    But no one is destroying any Christians. Apart from Putin killing Christians in Ukraine, anyway.
     
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    Russians turn against Nicholas II after a series of unpopular decisions
    The roots of the Romanov family’s murder can be found in the earliest days of Nicholas’ reign. The eldest son of Emperor Alexander III, Nicholas was his father’s designated heir. But Alexander did not adequately prepare his son to rule a Russia that was wracked with political turmoil. A strict autocrat, Alexander believed that a czar had to rule with an iron fist. He forbade anyone within the Russian Empire to speak non-Russian languages (even those in places like Poland), cracked down on the freedom of the press, and weakened his people’s political institutions.

    stampede. They had gathered on a large field in Moscow to receive coronation gifts and souvenirs, but the day ended in tragedy. It was a disturbing beginning to Nicholas’ reign, and his bungled response earned him the nickname “Nicholas the Bloody.”
    Throughout his reign, Nicholas faced growing discontent from his subjects. He fought a war the people weren’t behind. His government massacred nearly 100 unarmed protesters during a peaceful assembly in 1905. And he struggled to maintain a civil relationship with the Duma, the representative branch of the Russian government.​
    https://www.history.com/news/romanov-family-murder-execution-reasons


    I suppose you really could compare Putin and Romanov. They've both gotten a lot of innocent people killed.
     
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    Oh, so then it's Putin killing his own people to make the Nazis look bad? What would we do without your insightful input.

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    That's the best one yet Jeannette.:applause:

     
  6. Durandal

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    Putin has created this separatist movement with the exact same lie you're posting here (alleged "Nazis" in Ukraine allegedly killing Russians) and is covertly supporting the armed conflict. So yes, he is getting people killed there, just he has gotten people killed in Georgia and even in Russia proper.

    To you, Ukrainians fighting to defend their nation are "Nazis" while Russians invading and stealing Ukrainian territory on the basis of lies are heroes somehow defending Russia. I don't think you could be any more ridiculous if you tried.
     
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    Oh yes, our Orwellian world and its advocate Durandal, where white is presented as black, and black as white. Do you really think all Americans are so stupid, that they can see reality and such as you? Guess again!


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    Whatever's false
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    and throw the lies
    back onto you.

    And what is right
    they'll say it's wrong.
    Then woe to all,
    it won't be long.

    When everyone
    will wear a frown.
    For what is 'up',
    they'll call it 'down'.

    Then try to make
    the day a night
    so dark can reign,

    without the light. - Jeannette
     
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    As I said... you are CLUELESS !!

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    And we should bear that out, Trump sent B52s despite Moscow's objections, Biden shouldn't have backed down.
     
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    Different situations these are - Parking our warships in the black sea - where they are sitting ducks - is not the same.

    So cavalier towards escalation towards war ...
     
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    The B52s were equally vulnerable, we've seen the power of Russian SAMs over the Ukraine.
     
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    NO HYPERBOLE but rather JUSTIFIED OUTRAGE [​IMG]

    TELL US ! - Just how was the question loaded? ..This b!+ch Albright appeared Callous
    because she and the US Sanctions directed against Civilians, were Callous - And YOU
    can bet that her answer was "Improper" according to US Policy makers as it EXPOSED
    in a startling way the overtly Criminal, disgusting and repulsive nature of their Policies

    She actually apologized, not for the suffering and DEATH caused but for the Embarrassment to USA and its policies

    The question was straight forward, and given the news that was current. That UN inspectors
    upon observing the horrible effects of the BRUTAL Sanctions being lain upon the Iraqi people,
    and upon becoming aware of the terrible Atrocity being perpetrated, began calling for the more
    egregious Sanctions aimed at Civilians, to be lifted. In FACT they began resigning in protest.
    They could no longer in good conscience continue to be a part of what was being described as
    a GENOCIDE. People wanted answers, and so the questions was asked. Albright answered it.

    UN Security Council:
    Disagreements and Debates on the Sanctions

    https://archive.globalpolicy.org/se.../case-study-sanctions-against-iraq/42125.html
    From The Article:
    Russia and France, along with many elected members, were critical of the Iraq sanctions
    and tried to lift or substantially reform them. The United States and the UK used their
    political muscle and veto power to keep sanctions in force ...........


    UN Aid Chief Resigns Over Iraq Sanctions
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/un-aid-chief-resigns-over-iraq-sanctions-1175447.html

    Second Official Quits UN Iraq Team
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/feb/16/iraq.unitednations

    Paying the Price: The Killing of the Children of Iraq
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    ........................................ And everybody Laughs [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    & Just what kind of context would you like to push this Simple Arrogant Statement into
    so that it Feels Good to a person with an Intact Moral Compass. Just how are you going
    .................................... to polish this TURD, so that the STINK of it does not rub off on that
    .................................................................................. "The Glorious American Experiment ?
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    WRONG again ! - these R [​IMG]
    You either have made YOURSELF Ignorant of the Facts or YOU consciously spread Lie

    As Operation Desert Storm unfolded - (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991)
    T
    he American Military issued, at that time TOP SECRET Document which was titled:
    “Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities which outlined exactly what it titled and projected
    what the results would be if they Attacked those and other "Civil Infrastructures" with
    ........................................................................................................................ Bomb and Sanction.

    They found that they could completely destroy said infrastructure in a matter of weeks and that
    Sanctions would prevent any repair. The obscene Government Document brazenly outlines,
    with - Malice Aforethought - that result would no doubt be, uncontrollable Epidemics of:
    diarrheal diseases, measles, diphtheria, pertussis, meningitis, hepatitis and cholera

    What did the "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" the Land that is HATED for
    its Freedoms, proceed DO with this Intelligence ? [​IMG] - Why they decided that it
    was
    . "a price they felt was worth it" and so proceeded to conduct yet another
    Glorious American Experiment" and to Bomb and Sanction Iraq back into the Stone Age.
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    How the US Deliberately Destroyed Iraq’s Water Supply,
    And Now Syria

    Thomas Nagy
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-the-us-deliberately-destroyed-iraq-s-water-supply/31011

    &
    Counter Currents
    Unmasked - theWar Against Iraqi Children
    https://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-hassan040804.htm
    In 2001, Professor Thomas Nagy of the School of Business and Public Management at
    George Washington University investigated the U.S. Government "declassified" documents
    of the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) that "proving" beyond a doubt that, the malevolent
    intent to target sites of vital civilian importance in the first U.S. war on Iraq (2). Professor
    Nagy cites macabre foreknowledge of the effects of bombing water purification and sewage
    treatment facilities, which provide clean water to the Iraqi people

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    REBUTTAL OF POST
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    They Deal with them as if they were Cockroaches, They dispossess, burn their crops,
    bulldoze their homes, and when they protest, they murder and Bomb them.
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    SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS. STILL THE SCHOOL FOR KILLERS?
    https://globalrights.info/2017/03/75903/
    So the US Military PRACTICES Torture in Abu-Grab and Guantanamo but doesn't teach it ?
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    TRAGIC MISTAKES? - no problem "we don't do body counts" - AND NOTHING CHANGES
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    US Retreats From Afghanistan:
    Truth Behind The Empire’s Defeat



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    Washington Brings Syria’s Al Qaeda In From The Cold
    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/08/syri-a08.html
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    THE CIA USE TO INFILTRATE THE MEDIA.
    NOW THE CIA IS THE MEDIA

    https://www.blacklistednews.com/art...-infiltrate-the-media-now-the-cia-is-the.html

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    Yeah .. I am not biting - its not the same - and Russia does not have "SAMs" in Ukraine - the Russian Separatists may have had one - and used it up on the plane that was shot down .. and don't think they have it anymore.

    Also .. I think the warning given is more severe in this case.
     
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    Good piece, it actually tells some truth. More from it for those too lazy to click the link:

    "As for the country where World War III is likely to start, it is obviously Ukraine, whose leaders are desperately applying for the dubious prize of following the example of Serbia in the outbreak of World War I and Poland in World War II. At the same time, Kiev is trying to “wag the dog” and draw America and NATO into their dangerous game.

    Ironically, one of the main actors in this looming tragedy is a Jewish comic, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who won the 2019 presidential elections in Ukraine by pledging to bring peace to a country torn by civil war after the 2014 Western-backed coup. Regrettably, he is finding eager backers in Washington and Brussels. As a result, we see the merger of an unlikely partnership that includes Ukrainian ultranationalists and Western democracies led by the Biden administration.

    Actually, this fraternity also happened in the past when, after the end of World War II, U.S. and Canada welcomed thousands of German Nazi war criminals and their Ukrainian collaborators to be used in the Cold War against the USSR. Another similar and more recent example was in Syria when Washington financed, armed and trained Middle Eastern terrorists, calling them “moderate” rebels.

    So far, we haven’t heard a single word of condemnation or even mild criticism from Washington or Brussels of the Ukrainian-armed neo-Nazi battalions, their torch marches in the capital city of Kyiv or burning of live people in Odessa. Western democracies do not object when Ukrainian authorities praise Nazi collaborators as heroes and rename streets and sport stadiums in their honor. Nor is there condemnation when electrical and water stations in areas controlled by separatists are blown up by Ukrainian infiltrators, or even when the Ukrainian government built a dam to block water supplies to Crimea. This is despite Kyiv’s calling these territories a part of Ukraine, which means that the authorities are torturing their own people with the tacit support of the West. Some Western values.

    The road map to peace was clearly outlined in the Minsk accords, which were accepted and signed by all sides of the conflict, plus leaders of Russia, Germany and France as guarantors, and approved by the U.N. Security Council. However, powerful forces, both inside and outside of Ukraine, prevented Mr. Zelenskiy’s fulfillment of his campaign promises and, moreover, managed to transform him from a master of clownish stage escapades, like playing on the piano with his genitals, into a war hawk using the anti-Russia lobby in the U.S. and European Union to get Washington and NATO to take action on Ukraine’s behalf. And they are listening, by providing plenty of military advisers and trainers, billions of dollars in military supplies and verbal assurances that the West is ready to support Kyiv all the way. One should add that it was NATO’s expansion to the East and stand by invitation to include Georgia and Ukraine in this process was the major factor in the devastating wars in these countries.

    According to the Army Times, Defender Europe 2021 is one of the world’s largest military exercises, led by the U.S. and NATO. It will continue until June with 28,000 troops from 27 nations. In advance of the exercise, an entire U.S. Army division arrived in Europe. The Europe-Africa Command announced that operations will take place in the Balkans and the Black Sea region, and operations using maritime routes that bridge Europe, Asia and Africa will be practiced. No one is hiding that this operation is directed at Russia. When a Ukrainian diplomat said “The scenario is that from the Baltic sea to the Black Sea, we are practicing for, well, let’s put it directly, the war with Russia,” no one objected.

    Putin, Mr. Biden called on Russia to “de-escalate tensions,” but the U.S. has not indicated any willingness to scale back its exercises.

    Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the naval deployment was openly provocative and that “American ships have absolutely nothing to do near our shores. They are testing our strength and playing on our nerves,” he said. “Seeing itself as the Queen of the Seas, the U.S. should realize that the risk of incidents is high.”

    Washington keeps accusing Russia of violating the Minsk accords when it is he, Mr. Zelenskiy, who openly declares that these accords are not acceptable in their current formulations. Ruslan Khomchak, commander-in-chief of the armed forces of Ukraine, announced increases of Ukraine’s forces deployed against the Donbas, as well as in the direction of Crimea, so Russia is obviously responding by deploying its military personnel and equipment and as usual gets all the blame.

    When on March 29 the Ukrainian parliament, the Supreme Rada, passed a bill removing any need for Kyiv to fulfill its obligations under the Minsk Agreements, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg called the new Russian behavior “unjustified and deeply concerning”
     
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    Bet the lives of the crews on that?
     
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    Do you deliberately make your posts unreadable? Yes, the liberation of Iraq was a great thing and it's great to see it today with no WMDs and able to take it's rightful place amongst the nations of the world.
     
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    If one had to - yes .. as one should go with the most probable outcome. Odds of Russia firing on our bombers was less than an altercation in the Black Sea is .. IMO.
     
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    Bring the ground troops home leaving only the marines that guard the embassies. Complete the Mexican wall. Let nobody into the country without a passport and visa. Interview everyone who applies for a visa face to face. Follow the foreign policy of Switzerland which makes perfect sense.
     
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    If anything the reverse, a lot harder to knock down a warship than a bomber.

    Would be a the greatest disaster in world history. This policy was proven wrong in 7/12/41 and 9/11/21
     
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    It depends but it matters not to the question of the likelihood of the event happening. Just because one action might be easier than the other does not mean that action is more likely.
     
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    I thought the Nazis already looked bad?
     
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