Rick Santorum says, "Vote for Ron Paul" to Limited Government question...

no, it shows you're ignorance of how the constitution is organized, uneducated on nearly 200 years of supreme court deliberations confirming that paper money is constitutional and blind to the everyday reality that people have chosen paper money over using volatile commodities as money

it's not against the law at all

article 1, section 8 gives congress the power to regulate the value of money and make any law necessary and proper for that

president george washington signed the legislation that chartered this country's first central bank

 

Wanna put money on it? I'm willing to bet that not only Ron Paul will lose. But most of those uncommitted delegates will vote for someone other than Ron Paul.

Uncommitted delegates don't just vote for the weakest candidate just because.

 

Who said uncommitted? I said unbound.

 

　
It's not even about creating work/jobs. It's about protecting a few corporate entities that should have never reached the level of 'manufactured' superiority they achieved only through government manipulation in the first place. A con will only go for so long before the gig is up. Cronyism should have been recognized and eliminated back when Bush I was in office and the savings and loans scams and hostile corporate take over’s, were hot and heavy.
　
The last 12 years of chaos (housing schemes, bailouts, stimulus schemes, war on [fill in the blank], etc… etc&#8230 is just S&L scams/schemes part II, and rewarding failures.

 

you're projecting

the point is that ron paul will not be nominated by the gop

face it, ron paul is a nut case and will never be president

 

This ^ folks, is a losing argument.

 

As much as I like Ron Paul, since when is truth a losing argument?

It's time to face facts.

 

what a joke, in august you'll see that it's you that made the losing argument

but, of course you'll most likely make excuses and try to obfuscate that rather than admit the truth

 

My argument:

Delegate selection process is incomplete and many delegates are going to the GOP convention unbound by the results of the popular election.

Your argument: Ron Paul is a nutcase.

Again, you put forth a weak argument and you lose.

As for the nomination, I never said Dr Paul will win. I said you are wrong to say that he will not.

 

Same thing happened in 2008. They stuck to their guns right up to the end claiming that delegates would suddenly shift to their side.

It's completely unrealistic. Unbound delegates aren't anymore likely to vote Ron Paul than the rest of the population. In fact they usually go for the guy who's most likely to win anyway. And that guy isn't Ron Paul. Everyone but them sees that Ron Paul is done.

 

It changes nothing actually. You either have too much borrowed or you don't. That's why Germany is fine and Greece is toast. Same currency. One will collpase without a bailout. The other will not. We are FAR closer to Greece than Germany.

We are not printing the money! We are borrowing it.

Greece is free to borrow money. And they did. And they got bit. Like we will. And actually, they have limits on what they can borrow. They are STRONGER in that regard than we are. We have no limit. As you can clearly see.

 

Dr Paul's support has more than doubled since 2008.

 

It's still not enough. He'll have to pass the torch on to someone else, probably his son, and he'll have a good chance in 2016.

 

the point you're missing is that ron paul won't be nominated, no matter what bs you keep putting out

yes he is and so are many of his partisans

you're projecting your own circumstances

you're confused

 

I can't argue with you.

You are going to be right no matter what.

 

i've been through this process twice before, 1988 and 2008

 

Romney lost in 2008 as well. Are you saying he cant be nominated because he lost before?

 

And it's still a small group of people compared to the support Romney and Santorum have. What makes you think these people, with a larger support group, can't also rack up unbound delegates.

 

no, i'm saying ron paul is a nut case and romney isn't

 

Right now I am going on what the Paul campaign is saying. They say they have more delegates than the media is reporting. The media is wrong to assign the delegates based on the popular vote when that is not the case.

 

Every campaign has more delegates than the media is reporting. It's a conservative estimate.

 

It still doesn't change the Law for the States to follow. Just because Congress can create a certain type of money doesn't mean it is legal for the States to use it.

edit: Also to call me "ignorant" & "uneducated" just goes to show what kind of trash you really are... the trolling kind who doesn't win debates through logical but, through logical fallacies.

 

the law states have to follow is that they can't create their own legal tender

that's exactly what it means and why the constitution gives congress the power to create one pervasive national currency


"States may not exercise certain powers reserved for the federal government."

"Much of this clause [section 10 contracts] is devoted to preventing the States from using or creating any currency other than that created by Congress."

In Federalist no. 44, Madison explains that "... Had every State a right to regulate the value of its coin, there might be as many different currencies as States; and thus the intercourse among them would be impeded."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_10:_Limits_on_the_States

the assertions i'm presenting here have stood the test of time for nearly 200 years, since 1819

if you don't like wiki's simple explanation, i can provide detailed academic sources from law texts

 

Actually, many of the delegates are yet to be "won" by anyone.

 

here's a breakdown of delegates by candidate, from a conservative source:

romney - 455

santorum - 199

gingrich - 117

ron paul - 64

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html

Total Number of delegates: 2286
Unallocated delegates: 1459
Number of delegates needed to win: 1144


other sources vary slightly, no credible source shows ron paul leading