Russia tells White House it will not return Crimea to Ukraine !

Alaska was bought from Russia for $7,200,000.

The U.S. paid Mexico $15,000,000 for California and the rest of the American South West.

The Dutch paid the Canarsee Indian tribe some pretty beads for N.Y.C. and the redskin savages were as happy as clams with the beads.

 

The Soviet Union transferred Crimea to Ukraine in the 1950s as a token of friendship. But Ukraine is currently very hostile to Russia and it forfeited the right to administer the region. Crimea has not been a part of Ukraine for much of its long history except for the Soviet era when Ukraine was a Soviet puppet state and only 15% of the residents of Crimea are ethnically Ukrainian, followed by Crimean Tatars (12.0%).

 

If they could justify why they took Crimea only recently not immediately after Khrushchev lawfully and legally gave it to Ukraine, then what you've said are just fabled fairy tales. Then did the Ukrainians threatened Russia's Urals with Missiles?, then if they are Russians why are they in Ukrainian soil?

 

I just read an excellent article on Ukraine that gave five reasons as to why Ukraine will cease to exist in a few years, so how can Crimea go back to a non existent country. The whole thing is ridiculous...

The writer gives an in depth analysis of the reasons on the link:

1. There is no historical precedent for such a state
2. Since 1991 Ukraine has always been divided
3. Russian regions outside of the two Donbass republics will go their own way.
4. It’s the economy, stupid!
5. The EU Problem

http://theduran.com/5-reasons-ukraine-will-cease-exist/​

 

The Soviet Union was one big country, so when Khruschev gave it to Ukraine to administer, it didn't make any difference. It would be like New York State giving New Jersey some land to administer.

It's not Ukraine that will threaten Russia with missiles, its the Nato base that the US wanted to put on Crimea. This is why Victoria Nuland had the coup and overthrew the legitimate government, it was so they could grab Crimea which is a strategic area.

Anyway if you get on the link read the article in my post above, you will understand that it is impossible for Ukraine to exist as a country... so the whole thing about Crimea is just foolishness.

 

My impression is that it's like our Florida and people go there to retire.

 

Crimea was given as a gift and never to administer that's why Boris Yeltsin was not able to take it back when asked by the Russian hardliners because Crimea was legally given and never as a keepsake. Then why is it taken back, defying legalities with "what if's?".

 

Gorby did made his retreats out there before,
and for him it's like a Californian doing sunbathing at Cancun, Mexico.

 

Yes, and nobody's saying it's Russia's fault. Russia has power and it is using it in a very efficient way when the circumstances are right. This is far from overestimation, we're talking about realities. Trump may be an American, but the question is, how huge of an ego he has? What can trigger that ego to do crazy things?

As an example; no one speaks about this but in the below video you can find the actual "spark" that carried him to the White House:

[video=youtube;k8TwRmX6zs4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4[/video]

After getting roasted like this, he has become the "right circumstances" that Russia had been seeking for a long time.

How the US spy networks in Turkey got dealt with is so simple: Russia and Turkish Eurasianist allies whom were imprisoned for a long time have actually asked FETO ""in a proper way"" to try overthrowing Erdogan. I can see Russian hands all over it with the smartest ways that could have ever been come up with. In 2010, questions started to be raised in the Parliament about 35 CIA assets working for ODC and their possible roles for conspiring fake trials against patriotic groups in Turkey by partnering FETO. These were supported in detailed evidence files. One of those guys called Black Howell:



He had to leave immediately after he got blown. Eventually, all 35 had to leave Turkey way before the coup. Then, detailed blackmail folders were created all about the traitors and their associates. Yet a bunch to be surfaced about many of those still in power. So how did FETO get asked for the coup?

Turkish intelligence is not one of those weak Banana Republic services. They have already infiltrated in FETO way back, in 1998, by rendering their agents rise in the organization as they are one of theirs. I'm not just giving that year, there are tons of gendarmerie intelligence service reports about the infiltration in this particular year. When the circumstances were right the agent who got raised as one of FETO imams in the organization, gave green light to FETO cells.The guy was able to meet Fethullah in person in Pennsylvania tons of many times. So he's one of the few top guys that the islamic terror group trusts the most.

His cover was so perfect that he even convinced Americans about the coup's success by setting up meetings with the patriotic groups who "seemingly" supporting the overthrow of Erdogan. Those patriots were simply backing their desire on the surface by blaming Erdogan for their 6 year imprisonments while knowingly the ODC was the only one behind all that. The plot began in 2012 when the Patriots came to an agreement with the Russian Eurasionists. They were released in 2014 upon the release of some blackmail files -a small part of which was enough to shake the government with bunch of ministers ended up signing their resignations- a year before.

Interesting contribution I saw right at that point was from Iran. Reza Serraf was the guy who unlocked the most crucial blackmail file gathering operations that hit the Turkish government at the time. He is one of Iran's economic hit men according to the CIA and now locked up in federal prison for what he cost to US interests. CIA guy Henri Barkey and his team checked-in to a historic hotel in Prince Islands of Istanbul right before the night the attempted coup took place, hoping to see the government gets overthrown. So, the stage for the show with "bit-players" like Henri who were unknowingly contributing to it, was ready. The patriots, unlike most believe, making up of 95% of the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK), left FETO cells all alone there at the bridge. You know what happened on then.

 

It was the rent for 100 years. In addition, Russia has not received payment. Usa reported that the ship sank.

 

If Russia decides to overthrow the fascist regime in Ukraine, then Usa and EU will do everything so that Ukraine will drown in blood. Russia wants peace in Ukraine without the Pro-Western fascists.

 

If the Whine House doesn't want to know the obvious answer they shouldn't ask. It's none of their business anyway. I think the Kremlin should start asking the US if they are going to release California from the 'states'.

 

Yes.

Yes.

No. As far as I know the US stole Texas.

 

Yeah, make sense...

 

Everyone knows that.

So, what are you guys so paranoid about, or is it all just an act?

Personally, I think it's the latter.

 

He's right Thingamabob:

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

As for Texas, it was an independent republic when it was incorporated into the United States in 1845.

 

Who said anything about the land that Vlad the Invader stole from Ukraine?

Again, it's the sanctions that are the bargaining chip, and I don't see Trump and the Europeans lifting them over a few rockets.

 

Ukrainians also showed these pictures.

 

So what? Peter 1 paid Swedes for the lands baltic. (Who will soon return to Russia, as well as Alaska, California and New York)
I think that will soon be a great war. And Russia, after a great war always got new land.

 

On the contrary, it's the US's responsibility to "bully the bullies" and protect the smaller nations they would abuse, especially but not necessarily within NATO. Russia has failed to respect international law and has committed an act of war against Ukraine.

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Is that what your rulers are telling you? You're really deluded if you think that could happen.

 

The Duran is a kook favored by Pravda dopes. Reason 1 is bogus - so what? States don't need a "historical precedent" to exist. The US didn't have one before it was established, and actually there is plenty of precedence for new states emerging out of the break-up of older, larger states and other entities. None of these reasons present anything of substance. Ukraine can and should be an independent nation state if that's what its people desire, and clearly many do. It's just that the Russians have no respect for them and like to think that any and all land that was once in the USSR should continue to be under their domination and control.

 

Since Obama did nothing about this, it's a done deal. Maybe first we should try to unsink the Titanic.

The lesson learned is NEVER rely on a treaty for defense, such as the Iran deal.

 

Did you tell them the story about Russia discovering New York, too?

If you blowhards want Alaska back come and get it. We'll have an armored welcome wagon waiting for you after you tow your transports across the Bering Strait.

 

I believe that question they asked was a mere message to Russia, that probably reads: "We got your guy under control and he now does as we say".

However;

 

LMFAO

Where do they come up with these sites? Elbow-deep up the Internet's ass?