Saudi Assault on Yemen Breach of International Law - Expert

I honestly don't know the extent of irans involvment. It could be a little, couldn't be a lot. Who knows. But I do know this. A radical Islamist is a radical Islamist. It doesn't matter where they are or where they are from. It is the duty of all civilized humanity to hunt these people down and kill them. If international law try's to stop that? Then I say (*)(*)(*)(*) the UN, (*)(*)(*)(*) international law. (*)(*)(*)(*) that. Kill them all. That's it. The terrorists in Yemen are radical Islamists. The same ilk as Al Qadea and ISIS. There is no good thing whatsoever about this. Yemeni legal government has asked Saudis and the gulf state coalition for aid. They have answerd this call.

Oh and. No it doesn't. If a nation asks for help when radical terrorists are plaguing it's land then they most certainly can ask for help and help can most certainly come. That be like saying all the nations helping Iraq and Syria fight ISIS right now are breaking the law. Which of course is???

Who is "we" by the way?

 

Wahhabism is a very austere form of Sunni Islam, and it is the only interpretation recognized as official in Saudi Arabia. They have been known to support Sunni terrorists throughout the world, and before the Olympic Games Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia approached Putin. He told him that if he stops supporting Assad, he will make sure there aren't any terrorist attacks during the games. ..Obviously there has to be a connection between the terrorists and Saudi Arabia, otherwise how could he say it?

 

I say 'we' because I am an American. Just because my government has been taken over by a bunch of sociopaths, doesn't mean it is not my country. You said that if a former leader was kicked out of their position that they have a right to ask a foreign power to bomb their own people.

In other words if there was a civil war in the US., then it would be okay for one side to ask a foreign power to get involved and start bombing and killing Americans.

 

He was "kicked out" by a group of terrorists that were going to behead him. What part of that do you not understand? And yes they do. And are you seriously got to act that ignorant just for the sake of trying to cling to your anti American rant? How bout this. Name a civil war where BOTH sides DIDNT ask foreign powers for help. It's a common thing. By the "logic" your trying to spout to try and keep your propaganda alive then it would me your justifications for Russian involvement in Ukraine are also illegal and must immediately stop. Ohhhhhhhh!!! Didn't think about that before you started this didn't you? And before you start trying to make a comparison about Yemen and Ukraine, please PLEASEEEE DONT. I'm so sick of hearing about your nazis and juntas and bullcrap. And it's insulting to all those who have died to try and compare the maiden to radical Islamic terrorists.

Let me ask you this, if a group of "Ukrainian Nazi terrorists" somehow captured Putin and forced him to resign as president of Russia, would it be legitimate? Would Russia magically be forced to recognize it because "that's the lawwww..."?

 

Would you volunteer for a position at the US embassy in Houthi controlled Yemen?

 

Evidence?

 

Since I don't think you are going to answer, I will. You claim to be an American, but I wonder why you blame your govt for siding against the Houthis? If the Houthis win, our US diplomats will have to flee. If the president retains power, we can have diplomatic relations with Yemen. I'm not sure what the debate is here? Pants always beats no pants. Having diplomatic relations with a country always beats no diplomatic relations with a country. Why wouldn't our govt being supporting Saudi? No brainer.

 

Truther line? The hell?

It's a simple fact. I'm sorry if it bothers you so, but the fact is that Saudi Arabia is full of religious nutbags who both engage in and fund terrorism.

But see, Saudi Arabia, like the new regime in Ukraine, is a US ally. That means their faults get whitewashed as much as possible while their enemies become our dastardly, Goldsteinian enemies. Allies = good, enemies = BAD!

Brings me back to what I posted earlier about our overall tendency toward an extreme mentality with no middle ground. Fiction is becoming reality when we treat real people and nations as good and bad, but that's sadly precisely what so many of us do. I suspect it's one way our primate brains have found to cope with a world that is very complex and confusing, and often scary and challenging as well.

 

Ahh the Soviet propaganda expert at it again: If these "experts" are considered "experts", then you know you're listening to the wrong news. When Yemen asked for help. Saudis didn't just bomb them.

Kind of like how Poland ASKS for US troops to be stationed there. The US troops aren't just invading Poland.

 

If it were for the purpose of expansionism, I'd say yeah. But it's for the purpose of stability.

 

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. It is apparent however that my point went clear over your tiny little head. Their nationality does not matter. Radical Islamists owe no allegiance to any nationality. They do not call any nation theirs. They hold to an ideal. Plain and simple. You think that because they were from SA that they somehow represent SA or acted on order by SA. I wouldn't expect some armchair warrior who has never fought them like you to understand. Every nation has it's faults. When have I ever said that SA was perfect??? Or the US for that matter? SA dues have radical Islamist in its borders. There are even those in the SA that support them. Hey, guess what? SO DOES THE US. So does just about every country. You need to open your eyes and see what radical Islam is.

Being an ally does not mean their faults are "whitewashed". We have extensive counter terror cooperation with the SA. One of the reasons we don't act as heavily in SA, like for example how we did in Yemen, is because SA is actually capable and more importantly willing to combat radical Islamist. Take Pakistan for instance. US ally, but can't really fight radical Islam on its own. So we have to do extra work there, or drones. Same thing with Yemen.

Spare me your hippy philosophy. Not only is it dumb and a waste of time but I also am not like how you've claimed. There is no such thing as a good or bad nation. Just like how there's no good or bad or right or wrong side in war. There is only our side and there is their side. That's it. It's that simple.

 

A breach of international law about waging war with other nations.

Gee, near as I can figure everyone who apparently broke this international law was taken to the Hague, The Saudis will be at the back of a very long line waiting to be served.

 

So, tell me how Saudi's action is any different from Russia's interference in Ukraine, or NATO's actions in Libya. How about Iran's actions in Iraq and Syria? Why single out Saudi for actions that happen all the time?

 

If the Ukrainians would have kidnapped our diplomats for ransom, or possibly even beheaded them, it would have been an easy decision to side with Russia. In option A, we have dead diplomats and no relations with the country, in option B, we have an embassy full of functioning diplomats. Why would a diplomat, president, UN, citizen, support option B? If you wouldn't work in a US embassy in Houthi controlled Yemen, you support option B.

 

Come on, the U.S led coalition is just bombing randomly. The number of civilian casualties is just outrageous.

'Disturbing' Reports of Civilian Deaths in Yemen, Warn International Aid Groups'. It is becoming increasingly apparent that the Saudi Arabian-led coalition is turning a blind eye to civilian deaths and suffering,' says Amnesty International

by Lauren McCauley, staff writer

http://www.commondreams.org/news/20...an-deaths-yemen-warn-international-aid-groups

For updates on the unfolding situation, Common Dreams has curated a Twitter feed of trusted voices.

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If you lived around wahabbis , you wouldn't think them "austere"..

Bandar didn't threaten Russia... The Saudis have been fighting terrorists for over a decade.. The have beaten up AQ and chased many out of Arabia... unfortunately some went to Yemen.

 

The Saudis aren't religious nutbags... They are as appalled as you and I that some radicals kill people and destroy their own cities. You can't believe half the crap the media writes about KSA.. They haven't been there either.

 

Yeah Margot...We know...The biggest terrorist attack ever against the USA was not carried out and financed by the Saudis. The Martians did it Margot. Also the Martians finance all those terrorist networks across the globe. Not Saudis. They're not even religious.

 

I understand that you are emotional on the subject...........

 

This is an astonishing victory for poorly armed Houthis. Despite all that U.S supplied gear Saudi supported forces simply collapsed. Yemen has been turned into complete mess. Two fingers to Saudis. The U.S next move will be to try to make a deal with al-Qaeda militants in Yemen.

Yemen's Shiite rebels capture presidential palace in Aden

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/yemen-s-shiite-rebels-capture-presidential-palace-in-aden-1.2309024

 

I think he misunderstood your post.

 

President Hadi's background... He was considered the consensus candidate.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/asia/2014/03/yemen-quiet-president-201432112448542617.html

 

A few years back, there was a complaint by Washington about the Saudis being willing to cooperate and disclose information about terrorists who endangered the kingdom, but not equally cooperative about those who endangered the US.

 

SAUDI ARABIA’S recently enthroned King Salman pulled off a striking diplomatic coup last month when he gathered a ten-country coalition of Sunni states to bomb the upstart Shia rebels in Yemen known as Houthis. Even Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, rivals in regional politics, put aside their differences to confront a perceived Iranian proxy. Egypt sent planes and ships. Countries as far apart as Morocco and Pakistan pledged help, too.

Saudi Arabia is usually shy about speaking loudly and taking part in military action. Its uncharacteristic assertiveness may be a sign of the influence of the new king’s son and defence minister, Muhammad, who is in his 30s. Sunni states no doubt want to draw a line against further encroachment by Iran, which exerts strong influence in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. But Saudi Arabia, which treats the Arabian peninsula as its backyard, is particularly sensitive about trouble in Yemen.

Politically nimble as King Salman’s team may be, the real test will be the outcome of the military action and whether it can stabilise his poor, tumultuous southern neighbour. Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth and custodianship of the two holiest sites in Islam, Mecca and Medina, give it a central place in the Sunni world. But the kingdom also has a reputation as a blunderer. Its attempt to unseat Syria’s president, Bashar Assad, by supporting rebel groups has been stymied by the backing that Iran and its Lebanese ally, Hizbullah, gives him.

Saudi Arabia has long relied on America for its own security. Its army has many weaknesses. “The military has some excellent niche capabilities, but it doesn’t yet reflect the country’s massive defence budget,” says Emile Hokayem of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, a British-based think-tank. During its latest foray into Yemen, in 2009, the Saudi army achieved a draw at best against the Houthis, then confined to their northern stronghold. A leaked American cable called Saudi strikes “imprecise”.

On March 30th an air strike hit a camp for displaced people in northern Yemen, killing at least 29. A day later, a bomb hit a dairy factory near Hodeida, killing 23. The Saudis have not admitted to any mistakes.

Saudi Arabia and its allies have bombed airfields, arms dumps and missile launchers in the hands of the remnant of the Yemeni army loyal to the former president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, who has allied himself with the Houthis (see article). Ships are blockading Yemeni ports to stop arms deliveries. But the Houthis still appear to be advancing. “Bombing from the air is unlikely to do much more than inflict pinprick damage,” says Kristian Coates Ulrichsen of Rice University in Texas.

A land intervention is a different matter. The Houthis are renowned as fearsome fighters. And any ground force might also have to contend with al-Qaeda and other jihadist groups that have expanded amid Yemen’s chaos. Who else would offer ground forces? Egypt, which has a large army, still remembers Yemen as its “Vietnam” from the days it fought there in the 1960s.

Pakistan is reluctant to be drawn into a war when it is fighting its own militants, the Taliban; it also fears exacerbating its own Shia-Sunni troubles.

Ultimately Yemen will have to be pacified by a political agreement. King Salman seems bent on reinstalling Abd Rabbo Mansour Hadi, the internationally backed president and, it is said, on excluding the Houthis. Saudi imams are said to be under orders to denounce them as “enemies of Islam”. The trouble is that Yemen’s Zaydis represent only about 40% of its population, so the Houthis will be hard to exclude. Mr Hadi, moreover, is discredited among many Yemenis, and has fled the country.

As America has discovered in recent years, ending a war is harder than starting it. Saudi Arabia’s enemies would not be sorry to see it bogged down: Iranian comments on social media already talk of Yemen being the “Saudis’ Afghanistan”.

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...oes-swiftly-war-will-find-it-hard-end-it-test

 

The Saudi version of stability seems strangely like the US version ......... IOW, chaos.