Sharia Has No Place in America

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    So is Canon Law. Canon law is the legal law that affect Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and some Protestant, ie the Episcopalian and Anglican. Yet, they are practiced here in the US. Do you think Canon law should be banned too because it viotates US law, Article VI?
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    What about the Noahide Laws, that were incorporated by Congress?

    Do you even know why they were suddenly incorporated, was the US just crying out for it, was there a mass public desire for it?

    Do you even know that they were?
     
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    What a cluster (*)(*)(*)(*) of incoherent babbling..
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Really? So you never heard of action and reaction? You think Muslims attacked you because they had nothing better to do? Open your eyes and your mind-America has done more harm to the world over the last 60 years, invaded more sovereign nations, installed more puppet dictators, overthrown more governments than anyone else. But keep on believing you're the victim.
    Oh, as far as being stronger than 'Islamist gangsters' is concerned, how's it going in Afghanistan after 10 years of dismal futility?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You mean like providing Kosher meals for Jews? AKA as Jewish ass-kissing?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    This is a very stupid post. Even for you.
     
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    No.....the Constitution says Muslims have the right to worship in freedom in the United States.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

    The rest of the United States understand this simple but incredibly important Amendment.

    Everything in your post is entirely in your mind and has no reflection with reality.
     
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    No I did not call the "Bibe" an abomination- I pointed out that the Koran is no more of an abomination than the Bible.

    I am no radical at all. I am not the one trying to convince people to violate our Constitution. I am not the one advocating that the United States government ban a religion and conviscate houses of worship.

    Those are the actions that indeed extremist Muslim governments like that of Iran does- I oppose such radical and bigoted extremism.
     
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    You didn't answer my question- did Thomas Jefferson himself speak to you and tell you the reason that he owned a Koran?
     
  11. Jack Napier

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    The OT is far more hateful and twisted than the Koran!

    Anyway, like I say, keep on fretting about Sharia if you like, and pay no mind to the NDAA act, and other stealth removal of your privacy..

    ;)
     
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    I have been pointing out that actions are illegal- not thought.

    You are advocating that our Constitution be violated by our government, and that a religion that you disagree with be made illegal, and that Muslims be forced to give up Islam and that their houses of worship be confiscated by the Government.

    I say- prosecute those who break the law- regardless of their religion.
     
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    course the Quran is a continuation of the OT, as is the Christian and Mormon Religions
     
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    And just address the whole idiotic claim that Islam is not a religion....other than the ramblings of some very determined neo-cons and bigots- no one in the world believes that.

    The Pope considers Islam a religion.

    Franklin Graham considers Islam a religion even while he disagrees with it:
    I do not believe Muslims are evil people because of their faith. I personally have many Muslim friends. But I decry the evil that has been done in the name of Islam, or any other faith--including Christianity.

    The Archbishop of Canterbury recognizes Islam as a religion.

    The Dalai Lama recognizes Islam as a religion.

    Every reference book recognizes Islam as a religion.

    Only the extreme fringe have crafted an argument that Islam is not a religion- and that argument is created solely with the denying to Muslims the Constitutional rights that all Americans enjoy.
     
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    Yes.

    And none of that is going to help anyone, when what I mentioned comes knocking....
     
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    "There are many that come to me on the last day and say, DIDN'T I PROPHECY IN YOUR NAME, AND DIDN'T I CAST OUT DEMONS IN YOUR NAME?" And Jesus will answer them, "I know you not, you are workers of iniquity."

    So don't be too full of yourself.
     
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    Nah.

    The stage has been set.

    They are going to come and put even more Americans in prisons, than they do now, and that is already more than anywhere else.

    However.

    They will bother less and less with formal courts and due process, or even telling families where the person is.

    I'm afraid your people helped create a golem.
     
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    Maybe so, but the old testament is filled with stories of violence in the past while the koran is full of commandments for the believers to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers in the future, UNTIL "religion should only be for allah.
     
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    Pretty sure the OT one's are meant to be commandedments, as well.

    Religionists need to understand....there are other books out there, and it is okay to let go of the idea of a magic pal.
     
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    Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

    Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

    Nothing about the past in those instructions from the Old Testement.
     
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    Nonsense. Old testament called for fighting against the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites in a certain place at a particuliar time that has passed. In order to establish a home for the jews....and then God took their home away because they were bad jews, and commanded them to go to other nations and be good citizens. No relevance to today.
     
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    While I don't agree with all that has been said in this thread I do think that some of the "bigots" here have reason to be concerned. This doesn't apply to all Muslims. I have a neighbor who is an Egyptian Muslim, he's lives in the house across the street with his wife and 2 kids, drives a caddy and an older Honda. He's helped me in the past with good advice on my garden, I've helped him keep his car running as he's not much of a mechanic. He works for T-Mobile and I am going to ask him about a good modern cell phone for me best bang for the buck yadda yadda. He'll give me good advice.

    Anyway while the vast majority of Muslims are good people there is a SMALL and VERY POWERFUL portion who are not. Russia is very concerned about these groups and why America and the west is actually SUPPORTING these people is a total mystery to me. The only thing I can think of is American and western politicians want more 9/11s, Madrid and London bombings. Take Syria for example, Assad was not the best of leaders. The Syrian government was not the best either but groups like the Muslim Brotherhood did not hold sway there.

    Why are we backing the rebels who at this point that in fact have made true Syrian rebels a minority? I seriously doubt that when Assad is gone there will be a government in what is left of that country that is friendly to the west.

    We need to back the good Muslims, not the terrorists.
     
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    Agreed. And if we had a problem with jews executing adulterers I would be the first to condemn them. We do have a problem with muslims killing unbelievers, justified by the writings of the Koran and hadiths.
     
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    ???? What information do you have, other than the unsupported assertion of the thread, that the US in any way supporting those who carried out this assasination in Russia?

    Where do you get this idea that the thousands of fighters against the Syrian regime are anything other than overwhelmingly made up of Syrian people and the foreign arab fighters are but a small minority?

    If a country supports Muslims anywhere in the world, you will be supporting a minority of them who are terrorists. Al Qaeda showes up in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, anywhere the arab spring has sprung, the likes of Al qaeda will come rushing in, hoping to be relevant, usually not.
     
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    I have not seen that happening here in the United States.

    But luckily our laws allow for arrest and prosecution of anyone for murder, regardless of their religion.
     
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