So how does America feel about the influence of, latinos, blacks, and women?

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    You got a point Trumanp. And my previous posts were for Mac-7.
     
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    Why did you pose this question? What response where you looking for?

    How about, I don't care what color or what sex a person is that is or wants to be an American. What I care about is that they want to be a part of its culture, not change that culture into something else. It doesn't upset me that people want to come here, I myself and 1st generation American, but it does pain me when some come without permission, some come and never attempt to become American.

    I enjoy learning of other cultures, and we are diverse so we have many opportunities for that here, but I don't respect anyone that claims to be an American that cannot speak English, or cannot follow the laws.

    Is this what you were looking for, or where you fishing for something else?
     
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    Well, are you talking about the parents in the kids lives or the ones that have walked out or both?
     
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    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    If these groups want to stay in bed with the left, our nation will cease to exist. We can't keep spending, simple as that, and when the people finally realize this, there will be a revolution and it won't be pretty....good thing is, the people with the guns are conservatives, including the military.
     
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    The parents that did not teach the truth and did not teach personal responsibility. The run away fathers, the sluts who got knocked up and sucked the tit teaching tit sucking...
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Melting pot for minorities means melting the wealth the rich people get into the pockets of those that didn't succeed.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    People that are working for a living.
     
  8. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    This is another fact that older white people don't get. And when they keep saying all the normally or what used to be normal way of influencing others by throwing out the scare tactics against minorities, it has a negative affect now. EVen after the election proved that they still don't get it.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Wow wildjoker5. Just wow!
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    When did the GOP go for excluding anyone? Are they the ones that promise one demographic toys and freebies or give tax breaks to EVERYONE? Yes, there will always be someone that "benefits" the most when you twist the numbers, but when it comes to the fairest way to precieve numbers, percentage wise, the "poor" recieved the best break over anyone. The "poor" usually got MORE back in refunds then they put in.

    The Dems propose a tax system where their minority voters mostly reside, and you say it is the GOP that is exclusionary? Plus, with the Dems pushing for printing more money, that is where the wealth gap comes from. The poor are poor cause they are fiscally irresponsible with their money, and the rich collect that "free" money the progressives hand to the poor because the poor dont save. It is the old adage of, even if you confiscated every last dollar from everyone and handed it out equally, within 5 years, there would be the rich and poor class just as before. You cant stop it and its not because the rich are greedy, they are just better with what they have.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Cause only dems point out specific groups and promise them something while the GOP tries to lump everyone together as "Americans"?

    Don't get me wrong, both parties are really in it for themselves and I did not vote for Romney.
     
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    I have no trouble with the growing influence of Blacks, Hispanics and women. It's just a shame that they and many Whites believe that government is the answer to most of their problems. That accountability for your actions no longer means anything. We can get the government to fix it, or take care of us. It would seem that we no longer see anything as wrong and society shows it. What use to be good, is now bad and what was once bad is now good.

    Families no longer feel it is wrong having multiple kids out of wedlock. They no longer feel that fathers should stick around and support their families. Government will do it. Drugs are no longer bad, lets legalize them. Do away with religion, as no one believes in that crap anymore. Drop out of school and can't find a job? No sweat, government will take care of us. Keep getting pregnant? No sweat, we'll just have another abortion. Can't make enough money, or even find a job because you didn't get an education? Have government take it from the rich or Middle Class. I deserve part of what they earned. I am in charge of my own body, but not responsible for my own actions. Yes, times sure have changed, but mostly not for the better.
     
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    No, young people are voting for Dems, so thats not the case. When you make promises to certain demographics, that is when you are being racist.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    That's why there is interpreters for deaf people and people who don't speak english. You can't discriminate against people like that. They have good things to offer if you don't puch them away. Also you make it sound like that demographic is the only ones who break the law. That's not true at all.
     
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    What are you talking about? This kind of thinking is working out great for the democrats most loyal demographic...

    As a report from Think Progress reminds us, in October, African American unemployment rose almost a full percentage point to 14.3 percent.

    As we’ve noted in earlier posts, unemployment is only part of the story. America’s Black middle class is facing a crisis of historic proportions. African Americans were among the biggest losers in the housing bubble; well intentioned but ill advised policy changes intended to get more low income families and marginal households into home ownership kicked in just in time to lure African American families into the housing market at the peak of the bubble. The loss of wealth and savings has been nothing short of catastrophic; decades of progress in building net worth for middle class and lower middle class minority families have been wiped out since 2007.


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/11/06/black_america_is_in_a_depression_295352.html
     
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    You are right, that is the philosophy of poor white trash too, but they dont vote democrat usually.
     
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    Only ones? No. The majority of the time? Yes.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Actually you're inaccurate. The gop doesn't include everyone. That's one of the reasons people voted the way they did. It's interesting that the myth that the gop includes everyone still exists in that party. Again, I'm not saying dems are the best and that's not why I started this thread. I hope everyone goes back and reads each comment and really understand how out of touch some are in realation to modern times. We can't have that no matter what industry or politics. Hopefully it wil be eye opening and a good resource. That's my hope anyway.
     
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    Let's not forget the popular vote was settled by a two point margin (51-forty eight)...not a huge insurmountable gap. Without the duplicity of the government approved media the gap would vanish and this election was about a cult of personality
    and NOT issues.
    Abortion has not vanished under republican administrations (correct me if I'm wrong) and had the O-bots not siezed on the chance to change the subject by bringing up the stupid comments of two (TWO) minor candidates, repudiated by the rest the party, this would not have been an issue at all.
    The democrats cleverly didn't try to defend their record. They merely threw out more red meat for their attack dogs to chew on.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Wow! You are just too much!
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    So, what policies are designed specifically for one race over another in the GOP?

    The Dems are specifically trying to make it easier for the hispanic population to cross from Mexico.

    The Dems are specifically trying to make it easier to get a job for everyone BUT white males.

    The dems are specifically trying to make it easier for blacks and hispanics to get into college with lower test results.

    Is a tax cut of 3% across the board for everyone American, and 5% for the poorest Americans targeting a specific race? I guess you could argue that since more of the black and hispanic population resides in the "poor" level of Americans than whites or Asians, that could be targeting one group, but I guess that would defeat the purpose of saying that the GOP is racist.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    I hope People aren't really in the opinion that blacks, latinos, and women are stupid and want hand outs. You really can't say that about that demographic in a respectful way. Maybe you are meaning to articulate something else. You also can't say the country is headed down the wrong way because of this demographic. Who made the rules that it was headed down the right way before?
     
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    Or maybe any attempt to bring the libertarians back to the voting table after they were dismissed by the RNC, but who needs their growing ideologes and votes anyways. Gary Johnson got 1 million votes and I am sure there were plenty of others that just didn't vote.
     
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    Show me I am wrong. Who populates the majority of prisons in this country? Well, I agree the black population in prison would be cut in half with better drug laws, but seriously, those in prison are there cause they chose to break the law. I am for legal marajuana, but I wont smoke it till I get to Colorado.
     
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    Americans of all stripes have spoken - they want more government control influencing their lives and they want to depend more on it for their well being. Of course, this trend can't continue indefinitely. Santa Claus comes with a rather hefty but unfortunately delayed price tag. His elves don't create the toys in the bag ex nihilo.
     

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