Support for gay marriage has fallen after Obergefell

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by MolonLabe2009, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. YouLie

    YouLie Well-Known Member

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    I'll explain the difference between interracial marriage and gay marriage for you kids.

    First, marriage between man and woman is as old as man and woman, in virtually every society on the planet. It isn't something we created out of thin air. It doesn't even need government sanctioning nor approval. It's not in any way controversial nor offensive to anyone. It is normal.

    Opposition to interracial marriage, although present in the U.S. for a period of time, was a temporary cultural standard of a subgroup of Americans. It wasn't even against the law. Although racism is everywhere and every other culture in human history has had its ethnic minorities, and almost every other ethnic and racial minority just about everywhere in the world in history have experienced the same plight as black Americans, including slavery; laws against intermarrying of people of different ethnicities have come and gone with the inevitability of globalization and blending of cultures. The minority groups change. Boundaries change. Treatment of minority ethnic groups changes, although to varying degrees. I'd say we're better than par for the course, if you've studied the subject in other cultures.

    Second, there is a genetic marker for skin tone. It's easily identifiable and a indisputably perfectly normal variation within the human species. There are no psychological factors determining race, unless you're Rachael- what's her name. There is a case to be made for biological sexual orientation. But even if we agree that it's innate, we still cannot scientifically and rationally conclude it's the same as race. That's stupid.

    We could, if we dared, compare homosexuality to many other similar physiological human conditions. That would be scientifically more accurate. That is if you "f-ing love science."
     
  2. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    I see you are attempting to build an army of strawmen.

    Yes, people invent words....and?
     
  3. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I was fantasizing about gay marriage being approved by all, and had political correctness in my back pocket, I'd say the same thing you just did. All I can say is enjoy it while it lasts.
     
  4. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    .......Yes.
     
  5. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Oh look! Breitbart referencing a AP-GfK Poll.

    How dare they!
     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A bigot is someone that is strongly opposed to a differing opinion.

    With that I say, remember the reaction towards anyone that is asked if they agree with gay marriage and say no, and the bashing they take from those that support it. The intolerance says it all.
     
  7. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Well, since the government is now sanctioning same-sex marriage, then I'm forced to support it.

    Get government out of the marriage business.
     
  8. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then perhaps you can use the term correctly. Nobody is scared of gay people, nor discriminatory just for saying no. Ultra hypersensitive much? Where did you learn to be so fragile?
     
  9. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's right. 5 out of 9 votes in favor is what it took to get nationwide results. They knew better than to leave it up to the states. There's your reality.
     
  10. Arxael

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    If someone has an irrational fear of homosexuals, they are a homophobe. There is NOTHING bigoted about that.
     
  11. Montoya

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    You'll get over it.
     
  12. Junkieturtle

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    Awww, can't we at least humor these folks who are still seething about the SSM decision. I mean, surely we can all have some empathy for someone who is extremely angry when others are treated with equality by the law.

    My suggestion: Find a support group for people who've had their lives turned upside down now that two men or two women can get married. Shouldn't be that hard, what with all the skies falling, the impending destruction of America because of gay people, and God's looming wrath(or hurricanes).

    It shouldn't be that hard to find other folks suffering from GDS. You might even be able to start a group right here on this forum.

    But, regardless of your chosen path, it is my sincere hope that all of you currently living with GDS find the help and support you need to move forward with your lives.
     
  13. doombug

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    Sure it is. If someone has a fear of something and they are called names because of it it really is beyond bigoted and along the lines of bullying. It doesn't hurt to have a fear of something even if it is irrational. The left has turned into the thought police and and want to control what others believe.
     
  14. Blinda Vaganto

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    How is democratic opposition to interacial marriages in the past now an argument against republicans?
     
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    Doubtful. It seems as if the people that are extraordinarily preoccupied with what other people are lawfully and rightfully doing in their private lives, are rigidly set in their ways.. They undoubtedly have no choice but to deal with it, but it is ruining their marriages and ultimately, their lives...:roll:
     
  16. Montoya

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    Oh well, its time to dismiss these people and shut them out. SSM is now the law of the land and nothing is ever changing that. I admit I am mildly amused by the kicking and screaming childish tantrums.
     
  17. MolonLabe2009

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    Why do you love government controlling everything????
     
  18. Montoya

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    That doesn't even make sense.
     
  19. leekohler2

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    Homophobe is an accurate term. It is not "name-calling". I'm surprised the right doesn't own it, given how proud they are to discriminate against gay people.
     
  20. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    I'm a libertarian, so I don't care what people do in their private lives as long as they are not hurting someone else.

    What I have a problem with is why is government sanctioning marriage in the first place?

    Get government out of the marriage business.

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    You don't understand basic English grammar?
     
  21. leekohler2

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    Hey, when are you going to admit you lied?

    Nice try.
    BS! Do you not research before you post?



    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A60MG20121107
     
  22. Arxael

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    It still doesn't change that homophobia is an irrational fear of homosexuals. How people use that has nothing to do with the definition itself. There are LOTS of phobias that people make fun of others for having, that doesn't change the definition not change the fact it is a phobia.

    Whining about phobias is what cons have been reduced to after SSM is legalized. Pathetic.

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    It's amusing seeing you guys all of a sudden worried about government being involved with marriage AFTER SSM is legalized. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. I don't remember a strong calling for government to get out of marriage 10 years ago, I wonder why?
     
  23. leekohler2

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    Of course there wasn't. It wasn't until we demanded equal treatment that they started getting their undies in a bunch, looking for any excuse to treat as less than they are. That is what this is really about.
     
  24. MolonLabe2009

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    What?

    I've always been worried about government being involved in marriage.

    Why would I want government sanctioning, documenting and taxing my marriage?
     
  25. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, but what's bigoted is using that term to call anyone that disagrees with gay marriage a homophobe. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I have an irrational fear. There was absolutely no common sense put into that word when the gay community decided to start using it. It'd seem more appropriate to call them heterophobes.
     

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