The Darwin Party

Correctamundo.

Can't do that in a compulsory system.

Sure you wouldn't, you'd just try and get people not to believe ideas you think are silly and deny breeding licenses to people you think are stupid.

 

Why not?

And whats wrong with improving human kind by dying idiots the opportunity to make idiot babies?

 

If intelligence is the faculty used to determine which decisions are good then in order to let someone exercise that faculty you must let him make his own decisions.

Who gets to say who's an idiot?

 

Their IQ. The majority of people are idiots, anyone who says otherwise is fooling themself.

 

Who gets to design the tests?(This coming from someone who preforms very well on the existing ones)

Colour me a fool then:

 

Define very well. I seriously doubt it due to your convoluted arguments, you make little sence.

 

Who says you're improving it? You're ironically playing God by determining what makes someone an idiot. One man's fool is another man's sage. A difference of perspective can be a mother(*)(*)(*)(*)er. And once you have created your homogenous utopia, you are now stuck with the very thing you're complaining about; a mass of mindless sheep.

If I may be so bold here, your party ideology seems to be born out of a need for intellectual validation. As if you hold IQ above all else because you might be sub-par in other areas. It reeks of jaded nerdism.

 

What!!! ??? Explain that, because I don't get it :-S

 

Normally because intellectuality and rationality is opposite to faith. And religion is purely based in faith, so you have to lose rationality in some point.

An extremist religious for example never can be scholar or intellectual because he won't have anything of rationality, so he won't be able to reason.

If you're moderately religious then is more probable that you will be more rational, but you will have contradictions in some point, and you will have to give there faith or reason, you will have to choice what option you prefer.

PS: Ah and I don't support this fascist elitist party. I didn't say it, but I consider completely wrong and insultant this party. Mainly for the part of eugenics. Who give you the right to decide what other people can do or not?

 

Who gives me the right? lol
Who gives retards the right to bring other retarded children into this world?

 

I'm an atheist and I think science is the future. However, as a libertarian I would never vote for a party that was against freedom. If dumb people want to breed then good for them, it's their right to do so. More intelligent people could have more babies, that'd work.

 

I am not a nerd, I hate nerds. I want to breed the master race of perfect beings, inteligent, beautiful, atheletic, healthy. Not a bunch of geeks with tucked in shirts and glasses.

And we must play god, because there is no god.

 

Inteligent people are not having babies that is the whole problem. Whats the point of having freedom if everyone is too stupid to do anything with it...

 

Sieg Heil!

 

It's not freedom if you're not allowed to do what you want with it.

 

Most people will be free, just some people will have to adopt instead of have kids, for the good of our race. Some people should just not have kids because of their genetics, it's as simple as that. It is wrong to allow a child to be born from two stupid parents, because it is a 99% chance that child will be stupid. We have no need for idiots in our society.

 

Got any stats to actually back that up?

 

Other than the fact that inteligence is mostly genetic? It's evolution, two smart parents make a smart child.

 

I advocated the basically same thing (not a party but a coalition) however just read my rebuttals as a party advocating the uniting of the western hemisphere. In the thread I advocated isolating and uniting the western hemisphere i.e. UTOPIA United Territories Of Interdependent Americas. I will think of what the 'p' stands for later! In UTOPIA vast sums of money could be focused on pure R&D Space exploration with emphasis on MANNED space travel with interstellar and colonizing ambitions. Robotic missions would be increases as well. Of course there would be a extreme drive to become self-sufficient in everything food, energy, defense (military fortress western hemisphere, defensive not offensive), everything! That would have unimaginable economic and other benefits and would eventually allow the nation of UTOPIA’s and it’s citizens to be rich in all venues than any nation of the history of the earth IMO.

That would be a nightmare according to my sensibilities! No way Jose! I absolutely detest and fear centralized power that has the authority to have that kind of totalitarian control over my life! No no, no! It smacks way too much of Nazi breeding programs. NOT a good idea IMO, Ha ha! I think my idea of a united western hemisphere would be better. (or a party that would advocate a UTOPIA protocol). To counter forced genetic enhancement of people I would approve of allowing research to continue that was beneficial to human development and would apply the results on a voluntary basis. Additionally I would speed up research in digital and computer interface between humans and machines. So instead of having a advanced human arrived at by horrific (to my mind)Nazi like breeding programs etc, UTOPIA citizens may have a enhanced brain through human machine interface i.e. computer power.

Brainwashing would not work IMO. In UTOPIA people would be free to choose what they want to believe by a NEUTRAL multi spectrum variety of choices. Confining by coercing and manipulation is both unethical and immoral, and I doubt the results would be good. A nation of in the box thinkers, besides being boring, would stagnate the culture to the point of rotting it from the inside out IMO. You would have a theocracy of ethicists [sic].

The quality of achieving superior and advanced methods of education would be paramount in the UTOPIA platform. However ALL students would be offered all they could learn. I would never suggest that a student be offered a better education than a slow student. Instead I would encourage all students to excel to the best of their ability. The funding would be there because UTOPIA would not have to fund the defense of other nations etc.

I would encourage and make lawful all belief systems in UTOPIA. Not an Orwellian nightmare like you propose, with all due respect. Heck I might even be a freedom fighter against that kind of atrocity! Ha ha...yes I am sure of it! Hey the Neo Nazi party already exists what would be different in your proposed party than the Neo-Nazis advocate today? That is a serious question!

Rev A

 

Is their decission, and you're nobody to tell them what they have to do.

 

That is false. The intelligence is not inherited. A child very intelligent can be born from not really bright parents.

What is more important is the education, and people not very intelligent can give a good education to their children. So your argument fails.

 

A. Shocked that the OP thinks these thoughts are new, and not doomed to repeat history;

B. Not shocked that Awryly supports this notion.

 

You should call it the arrogant party. You sound alot like Hitler.

 

"intelectuals"

You mean..."intellectuals" don't you?

Very telling indeed.

 

I never said you couldn't, but you have not answered my question. What makes my faith lower my ability to pursue knowledge and truth?

Just as the IQ lowers so does the attack against faith/religion goes along. Seems to go hand in hand. As the "progressives" push "forward" we seem to be falling apart.

It's still freedom and free people are entitled to them. You are no one to say who gets what.

What you propose is fascism. Freedom is selective, it is for all without restraint. What you propose isn't freedom, but handing out entitlements to those you think deserve them. Fascism.

+1 - I have to spread the rep comments around before I can give you another. QFT.