To my straight friends

Yes, man, not child.

 

Whatever you say.

 

No it's what you said.

 

I said the assumption are mostly true. You know what I said and what I meant.

 

I view how one chooses to have sex no different than religion, alcohol/drug abuse, theft, cheating etc.

It's all about choices.

The issue that I have is the recent push by govt to impose rules/laws for those who claim to live the gay lifestyle. Whether you like it or not, the moment the govt deems a specific sexual lifestyle as being equal to race/sex, then it must treat pedophiles and necrophiles the same as homosexuals and allow ther sexual lifestyle and protect the people who choose that lifestyle.

In order for you to claim that you have "no control" over how you have sex, then you MUST treat pedophiles the same.

 

Here we go again. So here's the thing, pedophilia, necrophilia and bestiality are illegal because children, dead people and animals cannot consent to sex, so it is rape. Adult, living, humans can consent to sex, so there is no reason to make the kind of sex the have, illegal, as long as it is consensual.

 

You said "sure man"

A man is my preference, not a child. I'm agreeing with you.

 

LOL, twist how ever. You know what "sure man" means. You have just admitted your interest in young boys.

 

Your view on this isn't at all relevant to sexual orientation. Orientation is informed by attraction, not action.

You can tell yourself that you're straight if you don't have sex with the same sex, but you know if you are attracted to the same sex, that you are gay or bi regardless of who you have sex with.

I personal am not a sociopath or do obsessed with spreading straight that I would hurt women by tricking them into dating a homosexual man.

One you look past yourself you'll see the pain that causes.

See a councillor and deal with your issues. They aren't the issues of the country.

The government isn't saying a sexual lifestyle is equal to race. It is saying that the homosexual lifestyle is equal to the heterosexual lifestyle. They opened the door long before you were born. They recognized the heterosexual lifestyle. You are the one claiming one is worth recognizing while the other is not.

What is the difference between the heterosexual lifestyle and the pedophile lifestyle? Since you brought it up

First nobody is saying they don't have any control over how they have sex, they say they don't have control over who they are attracted to.

Again by your reasoning if we support the heterosexual lifestyle than we should support the pedophile lifestyle. Because sexual lifestyles are all created equally right?

If not you must explain why heterosexual lifestyles are superior to pedophile sexual lifestyle with facts, not religious texts or other meaningless assumption.

 

Yep

"sure" in the context you used it means certainty. And man is an adult male human.

Certainty of adult male human. Yep.

You twisted my words.

 

actually, given the way reproduction works, it requires a developed male and female

 

Well you can still live a homosexual lifestyle and reduce. You can live a heterosexual lifestyle and never reproduce.

The existence of male and female isn't dependant on sexual orientation.

 

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I can also try and use a bolt like a nail but it's meant to be used with a nut

 

You are discussing the action of sex
Everyone else is discussion orientation

You either do not have a desire to have a discussion on the topic or have no understanding of sexuality.
Most people know what gender they are attracted to long before the physical act occurs.

Phedophiles and the like have a victim - none is present in a willing homosexual relationship. Your attempted straw man is noted though.

Again, I will ask you... Why are you such a proponent that orentation is chosen? Even though every major medical organization shows otherwise...

 

Lifestyle isn't the dependant factor in procreation. Somebody can procreate without cohabitation. Or having regular sex with them. It just takes once. You don't have to get married you don't have to know them. Where do you think children of homosexuals come from?

If to mate once with a person of the opposite sex to have a child and then spend the rest of your life with someone if the same sex equates to a heterosexual lifestyle. Than I think you have a few bolts lose.

 

The act of having sex is a choice and because he wants to argue that sexual orientation is a choice, he is fixated on the act.

 

Most normal people see it this way.... Sad that the most vocal minority doesn't see it your way.

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Pregnancy is a factor for you? Why? Explain your assertion.

 

Who are you to dictate what one is? You are no one. If someone comes out and states they are a way contradictory to your beliefs, it does not mean anything. I came from a heterosexual household and look how I turned out.

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Wow, you would disown and turn away your own..... How very "Prodigal Son" from the bible! Fun story, his family took him back, warts and all.

 

My daughter is bi and as I have no bias towards bisexuals her sexuality is unimportant to me.

 

Well, in honesty, people fear rejection. I mean, come on. If you came out, you are revealing the most intimidate detail about you. You are revealing who you will have sex with. Granted, the argument can be made about heterosexual life, but it gets different when you bring the gay stuff in the equation. It is extremely scary because you are opening up the possibility of being reviled, hated, or seen as some deviant over something you have very little to no control over.

 

So...... waving a rainbow flag is now demonic. Point well taken. Did you ever have issues of acceptance in your state of being?

 

I always figured what one does in the bedroom is nobody's business but theirs. Now if they want to let the world know, that too is their business.

 

Very true, but privacy only goes so far. You can keep issues like this "within the family" for so long. I lived in a small community and when I came out, even though I wanted to keep it within the family, it was like placing up a billboard along a busy highway. It got out and I had to deal with it. Even if you wish to keep things private, it does not mean they will remain that way.

 

Acceptance is wonderful. I am glad to hear you accept her for who she is.

 

I suppose it would be a shock to those not expecting it. Stereotyping is a huge problem that I think everyone of us engage in at sometime or another. Some much more so than others. What I found out is those pretty much anchored to one place are the ones who stereotype the most. I would never know how you feel, but you would be welcomed in my home.

I had the luxury of being stationed in Southeast Asia where gays and transsexuals are more or less the norm and accepted as a young GI. So a friend is a friend is a friend regardless. So I moved around and saw the world. My perspective is totally different, my experiences and taste of different cultures enhances my views of things. Live and let live is pretty much my motto. But the ones who stay pretty much in one place seem to have very harden views on gays, race and other things. But then again even before I was drafted, my political mentor was Barry Goldwater who once said back in 1964 I think, "You don't have to be straight to shoot straight." A reference to gays in the military.

Ahead of his times, perhaps. But a lot of things he said has stayed with me. That and a lifetime full of experiences. A good person is a good person and a bad one, a bad one. That I learned from my dad, passed it on to my kids and to the grand kids. Everything else is irrelevant.