To my straight friends

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by fireballfl, Nov 5, 2015.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well, if your significant other is the same sex and hangs around your friends and family while they try and set you up with someone of the opposite sex, they become a little resentful, and begin to think you are ashamed of them. Than It is important to mention it.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    I'll never understand the perspective you have where a drug or alcohol addict should not be encouraged to seek help. Those who have chosen or are curious to try gay-sex are no different. They should also be encouraged to get help
     
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    A person's sexual-orientation is not an 'addiction'. Is YOUR libido an addiction?

    You do realize that's nonsensical, right?

    Gay sex for a gay person, is as natural as eating food is for virtually all other human beings. Who CHOSE to be 'heterosexual'? Please, provide verifiable proof that someone 'chooses' the gender they are attracted to. (Bring it, if you would.)

    There is NOTHING about a healthy gay/straight human being, they need to get "help" for.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Why???
     
  6. fireballfl

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    So now I need to be relegated to being compared to a drug addict. I pay taxes for your children to attend schools, drive on public highways, and take advantage of public services you so readily take advantage of. Yet, I am the one with the problems.
     
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    As long as you keep your sexual lifestyle where it belongs, then what harm is there? I have no problem with those who want gay sex to have as much as they want.

    The issue is trying to equate the choice of how one has sex with how one is born.


    With respect to relegation, that is utter hogwash.

    Those who live the gay lifestyle are denied nothing. What it seems that is being attempted by gay activists is to try and get govt to treat a sexual act as being equivalent to race.
     
  8. Johnny-C

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    What is a "sexual lifestyle"?

    Please, explain.

    I think you want people conceal their sexual orientation, unless they are 'straight'. And that will never happen.

    It's only an issue, if someone allows it to be. If there is legal consent, no victim and a modicum of modesty practiced... there should be no problems.

    There is no, "gay lifestyle". One's sexual orientation is not chosen, as though someone were stepping out to buy a certain car or some designer clothing.

    There are relatively few 'activists' (or radicals) per se. Today, most people are actually regular Americans who happen to be gay... standing up and fighting for their reasonable human rights. And that is a good thing.

    That isn't what's going on (despite the fact that you are adamantly claiming the same). What we're all seeing is people striving for equality, which is very fitting for Americans to pursue.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Adultery is not shunned.
    In many cases it's encourage.
    You know, lousy marriage, get divorce, encourage to find another relationship.
    So, please show where adultery is shunned.
    As for the others in your list, adults are not involved by all parties and are illegal.
     
  10. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Adultery before the fact is shunned. And yes, adultery after the fact is not, yet should be directed at the guilty of the relationship.
    So, you condone adult ciblings getting married? Mother and son?
    How long before NAMBLA wins?
     
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    who I sleep with is ABSOLUTELY my choice as it is yours

    We've gone completely nuts to try and equate how one is born with what one chooses to do with their sexual organ.

    You are denied nothing and the push for special accords is as far from "equality" as we can get. Look at the events in the news with respect to how some folks are denied their freedom of religion because the state chooses to force the acceptance of gay-sex upon people of religion.

    Religious people do not deny the exercising of God-given free will of people to make bad choices including practicing deviant sex. So, that being said, those folks are denied nothing.

    Those who choose the deviant sexual lifestyle however have involved the state to push the deviant sexual lifestyles upon people of faith.

    So, one side gets their liberty and more and the other side is denied liberty and even punished.
     
  12. dairyair

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    What do you mean before and after the fact? The divorce?
    Who is the guilty in the relationship?
    Divorce is allowed per the bible for infidelity.
    Adult siblings? Are there genetic issues/problems for offspring? If so, yes. If no, then I don't care, why would I?
    NAMBLA? Talking about minors not able to give legal consent? That is a silly question, I only say legal adults can give consent, no consent means it's wrong.
     
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    No one has ever been forced by the state to partake in any sex, deviant or otherwise. To state such is a lie. No one has been force to accept it either. Ever. To state such is a lie.
    No one has ever been punished for not partaking in any sex, deviant or otherwise. To state such is a lie.
    No one has ever been force to participate or watch, or condone, in any sexual activities by any other party either.
     
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    ????

    homosexual = gay-sex
     
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    Why do you post things that aren't true?????
    Sure, many do have sex, but that isn't true for all, nor is it what makes one homosexual.
    If you can't comprehend simple things, it makes it tough to go through life.
     
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    Except many people believe that practicing and spending money towards a religion is deviant, perverse and a mental disturbance - but one that is pushed by government upon other people in many different ways.

    As you stated, it is your "God given right" to be an atheist, so why should government recognize your religion or you having any right to equal treatment under the law?

    All your messages really say is you are claiming you are a superior person because you self proclaim that you are. Candidly, that is a self defeating claim, isn't it?

    - - - Updated - - -

    In no state is having sex a requirement for marriage.
     
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    heterosexual males engage in gay sex?????
     
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    the govt is imposing heavy financial punishments upon Christians for not accepting the gay lifestyle. They do no such thing to those who do not accept Christianity
     
  19. dairyair

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    Sorry. Life will be tough.
     
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    No where has anyone been forced to accept the "gay lifestyle".
    Instead they are not being allowed to refuse service to gay people that is offered to heterosexuals.

    No where, that I am aware of, has a Christian been denied a similar good or service due to their religion - if this had occurred the state would investigate tho similar results.
     
  21. dairyair

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    Maybe you can back that up with proof? What heavy financial punishment have you, your family/friends, or church members, had been given to you.
    We are all interested in this proof.
    If I were a betting person, I'd say you don't offer up anything.
     
  22. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well, when the non exceptance violates law, they must.

    If you want the law changed than you should work at that.
     
  23. JakeJ

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    No, contrary to your self claim you are not the spokesperson for all Christians.

    You want to continue to receive special legal privileges and rights that SSM couples do not have - claiming you are extra special and a superior person deserving superior rights and privileges.
     
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    umm, you just described homosexuals. The Christians do not force their faith upon homosexuals and should have the same rights as to not have the homosexual lifestyle pushed upon them
     
  25. JakeJ

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    That is exactly what Christians who oppose equal rights including marriage rights want to do.

    You are not the spokesperson for "the Christians."

    It is interesting that you you the most important words in the Bible are not words of Jesus nor about salvation.
     

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