Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

Dude. I am not asking you to link it because I want to remain uninformed. Hell, I even tried to google search the data from the CDC while I waited for your response but couldn't find anything to discuss the current If you have a source, then link it.

 

The time has come for my long desired Empire.(Think: Caesar, Napoleon and Wilheim.) Positive scientific reforms and economic mobility were the highlights of their regimes. An American Empire will unify the country, destroy political and racial lines and bring about the true United States of America we were meant to be.

Dreaming aside. I do agree with you that I doubt, I sincerely doubt States are underreporting due to political concerns and/or malaise. What can be explained by the simple, should be explained by the simple: At times incompetence, and at other times people are doing their best.

Like you've said numerous times: The real wish everyone has is that the real numbers of COVID-19 cases were: 0.

 

Dr. Fauci is talking right now about the results from a wide-ranging, very large (more than 1,000 participants in each group) world wide, double-blind test with Remdesivir that has been going on since February and he is indicating that the drug shortens the recovery by 33%. Brilliant that the test has been conducted across the world, which means that the use of Remdesivir has been applied against various strains of COVID-19. Outstanding. It also indicates really good coordination between medical personnel, scientists and epidemiologists across the world.

The results have been analyzed by an independent panel that is not beholden to any group. BUT it has not been peer-reviewed yet.

He is also indicating that Remdesivir is now proven to be able to block at least one enzyme induced by COVID-19. One enzyme alone is not good enough but it is an excellent start, to say the least. Fauci also said that that mortality rate between the test-group and the placebo group trended better, from 13% mortality in the placebo group to 11% in the real test group. I am no epidemiologist, so I have no way of gauging this, but Fauci looks very heightened by this point.

He also indicated that it is his duty to report this really, REALLY good news so that the people in the placebo group can start real treatment right away.

This is a major development.

Remdesivir is NOT a vaccine, but now we have a proven therapeutic that really does work quite well.

I can't imagine a figure like Dr. Fauci speaking too early ---- he must have seen more signs in the data (probably like his days combatting HIV/AIDS) that are causing him to announce this information now.

 

So, I misspoke: the mortality rate went from 11% to 8%, not 13% to 11%. Writing in real-time can sometimes be crazy.

 

WORLDMETERS is reporting that the UK has published (you may want to sit down before you read this): 4,419 deaths today.



At the UK website:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#countries

this number is not being reflected yet. WORLDMETERS has had an occasion accounting error now and than, but nothing this large. My assumption is that old folks homes have contributed death data over a number of weeks and it is being published today. If this number holds, then the total number of deaths across the world is going to be extremely high.

I will update this posting in the run of the day.

UPDATE:



I will be looking throughout the day to make sure that this number is really correct and if not, surely it will be revised. And then, I will report that as well, if that happens.

 

LOL... Life under those regime was terrible for everyone but the nobility. You should study a bit more. And the only way an "American" empire would destroy political and racial line would be by the mass killing of the majority of those not looking like or thinking like the emperor! In short you want the 3rd Reich 2.0!!

Also it's quite comical of seing you aregue for an authoritarian ethno state while bitching about China which is the closet thing to your "empire" dream presently in existance.

 

EVENING UPDATE (GMT +2)
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Right around this time last evening (my time), we went over 3.1 million COVID-19 cases.

Right now:





Right now, we are 13,306 cases away from the 3.2 million mark, but also 13,554 cases away from 1 million healed COVID-19 cases. So, there we have the positive with the negative.



The USA is, at the moment, at 60,495 total deaths.

Right now, there are +1,229 daily deaths that have been reported.

And there are 10.5 hours left in the day on the East Coast....

 

Here's the link (thanks @LoneStarGal ): https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

and

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

The number of hospitalizations from the Flu is right in line with 2012-13, 2014-15, 2016-17, and 2018-19. The number of estimated deaths would also be directly in line with the previous 9 years. So your claim of the flu numbers being WAY down is objectively false.

 

Funny how the flu and pneumonia deaths has dropped off so much.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/live-coronavirus-pandemic-updates-latest-21931279

Coronavirus LIVE updates: UK death toll tops 26,000 as care home deaths included

The total number of people who have died from Covid-19 in hospitals across Britain now stands at 26,097, with an overall death toll today including care home fatalities for the first time.

• The number of people who have died in hospitals from coronavirus across the UK has risen sharply, topping 26,000 as care home fatalities are finally officially included.
  
  For the first time, officials announced an up-to-date daily total for deaths in care and nursing facilities, where it is feared more people are now dying of Covid-19 than in hospitals.
  
  Public Health England today reported an additional 3,811 deaths in England since the start of the outbreak.
  
  Dominic Raab said those deaths were spread over a period from March 1 to April 28 - "so they don’t represent a sudden surge in the number of deaths.”
  

 

The figure is correct, The Uk have now added on all the deaths that have occurred in nursing homes since day 1. Hopefully other countries will now also report deaths that have occurred outside hospitals to give more accurate statistical figures.

 

Uh, no. The three I mentioned in particular, were a part of the renaissance era.(Yeah, there were more thinkers than just our Framers.) Even Mussolini as an example, had productive social reforms. The positive of an Empire, administered successfully is swift social reform. Even quicker than the most robust democracies(Here we get into a little interesting history about Greece. The Greek "Democratic-Empire" was more an Empire than the democracy the world knows it to be.)

Also, you're the one who called for an "ethno State". I've never used the word ethno State, once. Nor have I argued for mass murder, or have the mentality of someone who would act in mass murder. Please, for the sake of us both don't put your own twisted motives on my own.

But there's something equally disturbing: Since you, a democrat thinks that's the only way the racial division can be broken, it also means(as conservatives have pointed out), liberalism and democracy perpetuates racial and class conflict, ad infinitum.

Hey, it was you the democrat who said the only way the problems could be solved would be with excessively cruel and inhumane methods.

 

How about a link to that direct information? I mean, hard numbers.

Or are you referring to the flu estimate that was released last November?

If you are going to make a statement, then you should be able to back it up, nööööö

 

Well....****.

 

They have not. You need to actually read the sources you claim support you.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

and

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

The number of hospitalizations from the Flu is right in line with 2012-13, 2014-15, 2016-17, and 2018-19. The number of estimated deaths would also be directly in line with the previous 9 years. So your claim of the flu numbers being WAY down is objectively false.

 

LOL, Ceasar wasn't part of the renaissance silly.

And your "disappearance" of racial line could only be achieve by eliminathing the minority races, just like China which is now 90%+ Han chinese and how the german tried.
Mussolini was a dumb **** who used repression and force to silence the masses while he ran Italy to the ground. The train ran on time but nobody could afford a ticket.
The Greek democracy wasn't a democracy. It was an elitist entitlement program. The population didn't have the vote, only the rich land owner had it. They had no liberties or rights. In fact at one point there were more slave in Athens than they had citizens. Hell, they could even vote to kill one of their political opponents, how's that for democracy!

Go back to school silly boy. You dream of empire while you wouldn't even be allowed to participate in. You remind me of the de Niro character in Taxi Driver.

 

Your recollection of history is about as accurate as your insults of me. This isn't the thread for it obviously and I want to apologize to the others for that. i just felt the need to address your absurdity at the time, but no longer it's not productive use of either of our times and as noted: A violation of this special thread.

 

Interesting that when asked, he has not been willing to present information.

That is no way to debate or exchange information.

We can do better than that on this thread, @Hoosier8

Anything less is not in the spirit of this thread.

 

YOU TWO GET A ROOM!

 

White flag accepted.

 

INDEED.

VERIFIED:​

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/

















Until 2011-2012, in which case the 2020 estimate is HIGHER, not lower:




It's really a shame when some people are so intellectually lazy, they make blanket statements, refuse to back said statements up, and then it ends up they were talking malarkey all along.

FACIT: The estimate for 2019-2020 is exactly in line with every flu season back to and including 2012-2013, and then is considerably HIGHER than 2011-2012.

Why some people are so hell-bent on spreading disinformation when it is so easy to disprove and debunk is beyond me, but hey, now we are all better informed. (BTW, I had already checked this information out before starting this thread in the middle of March, suspecting that some sorry souls would try to spead such misinformation)

The only plausible reason I can think why a person would try to spead such bullshit would be were he or she trying to say that many COVID-19 deaths were actually "just the flu" and that's AHA!! why the flu estimates were so low (they weren't) and all those people in the hospitals who have been working their asses off to save peoples' lives, who have conducted COVID-19 tests, processed those tests, confirmed the results, treated patients, been with them as they died without the family being able to be present and wrote the death certificates - that somehow, those health-care heros are LYING to us about the real cause of death.

That's pretty darned perfide, what? It's just plain old ****ing sad.

@Hoosier8 - we are better than this. Get out of your partisan shell and learn to be better than this. Many people on this thread are more than willing to help you do this. But spreading misinformation is not the way to go.

 

I don't like using estimates period, I mean we originally estimated 30 million infected in the US and 2 million deaths from Covid. We won't find out the flu totals until next year generally, this year may be different. It does bring up a good question though for accuracy. I wonder if the ones who pass away are tested for covid and influenza or are the symptoms just assigned to Covid equating to a possible misreporting of the death cause? I don't know just a thought/question.

 

Re:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-in-the-world.569531/page-292#post-1071642477

That may help, nöööö

 

Those numbers were based on no closing or measure taken. Like when there's a forest fire and the fireman says that the whole forest will burn if nothing is done now to try to contain it. You know you won't be able to save the whole forest but you have to take drastic measures to save part of it and make sure it doesn't flare up after you're done.

 

Many people decided a few weeks ago that this would be a nothing burger. They were quoting numbers from the previous SARS and yearly flu deaths, compared to several hundred COVID-19 deaths as their proof. They were repeatedly reminded that it's not the flu, and the deaths would take off exponentially, but they didn't want to hear it. Now, as the predictions of rapid growth are being realized, they are clinging on to whatever they believed back then. I think it's so they don't have to admit they were wrong. There's literally no other reason to continue to deny what's in front of their noses.