Trump is in la la land when it comes to North Korea

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  1. AZBob

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    Im sure the return of the remains of Americans who died in the Korean War isn’t considered a joke to the family of the fallen. But, you really don’t care about that apparently.
     
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    You don't think getting back our soldiers is a big deal?

    How unpatriotic.
     
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    Selectively editing a quote is a cheap way of STEALING a point

    And you just did
     
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    In December 2016 Trump met with President Obama in the Oval Office. First Trump says he doesn't want to speak for Obama. Then he speaks for Obama.

    "I don't want to speak for him, but I believe he would've gone to war with North Korea. I think he was ready to go to war. In fact he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea," Trump said. :roflol::rolleyes:

    Trump is an embarrassment. What an idiot.

    We let it happen. We got the President we deserve. Hopefully, Americans have learned their lesson.
     
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    Did you two read this part?

    There is still 5,000 remaining, and it will take several years to identify the bones.

    I lost an uncle in the Korean War. The bones mean nothing to me. Answer this, how could the bones mean anything to anyone? This was a meaningless gesture, but Trump and his gullible fans bought into it. Kim knew that.

    Trump raised Kim's stature in the world, promised to protect him, and cancelled vital military exercises on the Korean Peninsula. Kim has given up nothing of value.

    But you two and Trump think he has. That is the point.
     
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    You are forgetting something. Kim is a communist. So is Putin, and N.K. is Russia's ally. Putin helped Trump become President, according to our intelligence agencies. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

    In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

    In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

    Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation.
     
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    We gave Kim nothing of value either. Please name one sanction lifted? I know you’re a chicken hawk that loves war, but if this diplomatic effort leads to lasting peace, war mongers like you will be mocked, and rightly so.
     
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    How did he raise Kim's stature?

    Do people now respect Kim because I've not see that.

    When did he promise to protect him again?

    More liberal lies!
     
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    Trump raised Kim's stature in the world, promised to protect him, and cancelled vital military exercises on the Korean Peninsula. Kim has given up nothing of value.
     
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    Keep trying sparky.
     
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    Trump is about to fire another advisor for telling the truth. Trump lives in a fantasy world all his own. This is what he has said about Kim Jong Un and North Korea.

    “I was really being tough and so was he. And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love, ok? No really. He wrote me beautiful letters. And they’re great letters. And then we fell in love.”

    "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."

    Dan Coats, Director of National Intelligence, gave us the truth when speaking before the Senate Intelligence Committee. "We currently assess that North Korea will seek to retain its WMD capabilities, and is unlikely to completely give up its nuclear weapons and production capabilities," Coats said.

    Trump hates the truth when it differs from his fantasies.

    Subsequently, for this travesty, Trump is likely to fire Coats. White House officials have begun to have preliminary discussions about replacing Coats amid concerns that Trump may soon dismiss him, two senior administration officials told CNN, despite the President's public denial he's considering the move.

    The conversations began this week in the West Wing after Trump spent the holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago venting to friends and advisers about the director of national intelligence, renewing his gripes about Coats' testimony before Congress last month.

    Trump on Wednesday told reporters: "I haven't even thought about it." That hardly means anything. Trump is a pathological liar and lying to reporters' questions has become a popular pastime for him. Besides, he failed to say he "full confidence" in Coats. That is a major tip-off right there.
     
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    Trump is admitting that his second meeting with North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un on Feb. 27 and 28 in Hanoi, Vietnam, will be a failure.

    Trump said Tuesday that he wants to see North Korea eventually give up its nuclear weapons program, but adds he's not in any rush because U.S. relations with Pyongyang are good going into next week's summit.

    "I have no pressing time schedule," Trump said. :roflol:

    This guy is a joke.

    He follows that stupid comment with some more B.S. "I look forward to being with Chairman Kim and I think a lot of things will come out of it," Trump said. "We had a tremendous first summit — it was really breaking the ice, but a lot of things came from that, including good relationships."

    Yeah, he fell in love with Kim.

    Did I say this guy was a joke?
     
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    Sandy Shanks back in the day.
     
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    Very smart. It was wise to give up. All the other fans of Trump have. All you were doing was digging yourself a hole.

    Trump is an idiot, and you know it.
     
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    The only thing I gave up on is trying to reason with you. You’re mentality is nothing more than a relic of the past. Trump may be a idiot, but if he succeeds, he’ll do more for humanity than you ever could dream of doing. I hope for peace, you on the other hand bask in outdated ignorance.
     
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    Trump actually gets things done with North Korea and some liberals think he's in la la land. Wow...
     
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    Trump is going to be upstaged by his former personal lawyer who is going to jail in a couple of weeks. Michael Cohen will appear before the House Oversight Committee for a public hearing on Feb. 27, Chairman Elijah Cummings announced Wednesday.

    Beautiful. Americans will be far more interested in what Cohen has to say than another pointless photo op featuring Trump.
     
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    Trump fans live in a world all their own. Reality means nothing to them.

     
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    Says the guy who’s mad because he’s trying. Like I said, you don’t understand how this stuff works.
     
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    I have a prediction regarding Trump's summit with Kim Jong Un. You heard it here first.

    The Mueller report is due out soon. Trump is getting enormous heat over his imaginary national emergency and the White House is concerned about the number of Republican defectors. On the very same day that he is meeting with Kim, the 27th, his former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, is slated to appear before the House Oversight Committee spilling his guts out on Trump's travesties in a public hearing and Americans will be listening closely.

    What does this mean as far as the summit is concerned? It means Trump is desperate to get Kim to agree to certain steps toward denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

    I predict Trump will give concessions to Kim to get certain agreements which Kim will forget about by March 1st. Up to now the U.S. has insisted on certifiable full denuclearization before any sanctions are lifted. I predict Trump will concede tit for tat steps toward denuclearization. N.K. agrees to certain steps be taken. U.S. removes certain sanctions. N.K. agrees to more steps. U.S. removes more sanctions, and so on. I predict Trump will make some concessions to get Kim to agree to the tit for tat arrangement.

    As Trump likes to say, "We'll see what happens."
     
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    Why does he think every leader from an adverserial to us country is his best buddy, after meeting them once???Yet he seems to have no desire to have a decent relationship with any leader of our long time allies??
     
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    Our allies have not threatened to end our lives. Better Trump figure out the path to get them (former enemies) to engage in commerce with us than some of our allies who rail against our country.

    Trump plays on words. Democrats forget his acts to focus on just his words.
     
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    So now NK is sitting down with the US in Vietnam, something that never happened before. What I see ahead is that NK will not give up nuclear arms but will be more closely joining the rest of the world in not acting like a nutcase country. Also, China does not want a foreign country with bases in NK and why they tend to support NK. The best case scenario is that NK is protected from regime change (their main concern) and that relations are normalized (for the sake of their own people).

    Progress isn't always what some neo-con (basically the new democrat party war hawks) wants.
     
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    I predict that Trump has no clue of the day of the Mueller report at the time of his set up meeting with the dictator of North Korea. I predict that Kim actually has thought this over and actually may come to senses that his past is no way to get what he wants.

    Kim wants to rule North Korea until his family perishes. Not just Kim, but to the last Kim able to rule over that country. He is not willing to perish to own nuclear bombs.

    I predict is is Kim who will give concessions. I predict Trump ends up winning.
     
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    Republicans will support Trump on the NE. Maybe not all but not enough to make up a super majority. The democrats will fail.
     

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