Trump sends the wrong message on New Zealand. World leaders must denounce the attack.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    If you had been paying attention you'd have noted that I'd carried it through to present day, so your question, such as it was, was not only insulting but needless.
     
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    I got from it, that more people getting more equality is what upset you.
     
  3. AmericanNationalist

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    Is anything he said wrong though? These people do support Trump and are mostly(except the bikers) authorized to legally use force. It's not Trump's private army. Moral of the story: Don't **** with people you don't wanna mess with.
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    And I'm sure you think Gillbrand's diatribe is the new Thomas Jefferson speech :D. When I hear the lunatics speak, I cringe with embarrassment
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    That's what you got from a fairly lengthy post that at no point mention race or ethnicity or religion? You should learn to actually read instead of grinding axes.
     
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    Yes, threatening to have his base use violence is wrong.
    Moral of the story, the prez is not a person to use violence as a means of getting what he wants. Especially on his own citizens he is elected to serve.
    But that you think it's fine say a lot about you, and any other tRUMPette who thinks violence is the answer to issues.
     
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    Of course the President should use neutral-effective words. Words like "shi*hole, sons-of-bitches, low IQ, p***y, calling women dogs, horse face and/or fat " would never be permitted.
    Gotcha!
     
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    Are Liberals still hung up on shitholes? Should he have called them massively corrupted and impoverished countries instead, because that's even more painfully accurate :D
     
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    Are conservatives still hung up on Trump being called a racist xenophobe?
     
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    It didn't have to mention race, religion, or ethnicity. That is just what has been happening for the last 60 yrs.
    I got from your post, that you want it to be 1950s forever.
     
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    Because it's not factual, it's what some people think. For those with discernment, we're able to better judge Trump's words or anyone else
     
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    It is factual.
    And I take it, you are ok with the prez calling for violence to get his point across. Even if it's on fellow Americans.
     
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    He wasn't calling for any such thing, unless you think you can read intent like Michael Cohen :D
     
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    Then you completely misunderstood the point I was making because the sparks from that axe you were grinding obscured your vision
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    Well then, I guess you blame the Beatles for the Manson killings since he based it on their White album.
     
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    Are you whining?
     
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    No but you are evidently.
     
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    Is Trump going to ban these sorts of terrorists like he did before?
     
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    Who is WaPo to tell world leaders what they must do?
     
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    Actually, the white supremacy thing is a total invention by the TDS. They still repeat the lie about Charlottesville.
     
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    What a lame attempt to attack the messenger.
    Who do you have to be to tell public servants what they should do?
     
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    Lol...Everyone already knows the truth about Charlottesville- a mob of torch-carrying far-right cowards chanting racist threats against the jews incited a riot and murdered a woman by running her over with a car.
    No amount of turd polishing on your part will alter the facts, but knock yourself out.
     
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    So no amount of fact will change your mind. Such is the sickness.
     
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    Trump said Friday he does not believe white nationalism is a rising global danger after a suspected gunman who authorities say espoused that ideology massacred 49 Muslims in New Zealand.

    “I don’t really. I think it’s a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. It’s certainly a terrible thing,” he said.

    "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," Trump said to national television audience.

    Referring to the clash of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and members of the KKK versus the townspeople of Charlottesville defending their homes, Trump declared, “You also had some very fine people on both sides.”

    In an interview Thursday with Breitbart News, Trump said this:

    "You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher."

    It would be very bad, very bad.

    There’s no particular reason to give Trump the benefit of the doubt on this. But even if he did intend it in this somewhat less disgusting way, he’s still saying that the ranks of his armed supporters could at some point feel provoked to violence. He doesn’t say they should feel provoked, but merely that they might feel provoked under certain conditions and Trump is giving his okay by saying, "I have the tough people."
     

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